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crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Apr-18-2006 01:39

no audience, 'judge o' character' is not some irish guy with a gavel and a robe.

What I'm wondering is this (by wondering, I mean its making me nuts..yay subtlety gene):

how is it possible that in the same case you can try to interrogate witness/suspect A successfully when the judge of character skill has reported that the chance of success is 59, while trying the same trick on witness/suspect B can fail even though the chance of success is higher?

Don't get me wrong...it normally works. But in those instances when it doesn't, I'm all 'what the hell?'

Comments? Suggestions? Bueller? Bueller?



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Della Devine
Della Devine
Well-Connected

Apr-18-2006 01:49

I have pounded my head against the wall with the same question to no avail. And it's the same with the townies. I had to bribe one that I had an 89 point chance with and the next one I had a 56 point chance with and they answered. And ONCE I had a 113 point chance (which had previously meant it was pretty much guaranteed) and STILL had to bribe her!!! I ended up with a concussion on that one. *grin*

So, I have no answer. Just commiseration. *puts arm around Crunch's shoulder*

R Anstett
R Anstett

Apr-18-2006 07:03

There is a random chance that questioning any townie or suspect will automatically cause them to clam up.

If that was not the case then the more experienced detectives would always be able to solve every case.

Just to keep us on our toes.

Della Devine
Della Devine
Well-Connected

Apr-18-2006 14:59

or to keep our foreheads permanently dented?

Orbitrux
Orbitrux
Well-Connected

Apr-18-2006 15:41

I believe that the number "59" in the example above means that there is a 59% chance of success. And a number of 85 would mean there was an 85% chance of success.

I assume the programming works on some kind of random number generator that determines the success within the paramenters of the percentages.

crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Apr-19-2006 01:08

its not a straight percentage orbitrux, I thought that too until I saw numbers higher than 100. Dented both my toes and my forehead with a series of kicks to the head-slash-headbutts to the foot when I learned that one. To the outside observer it would have looked like yoga on amphetemines.

*is so pained and confused he stuffs a typenol in his sock*

jk. Thanks for clarifying that one Anstett, I thought it might be something like that but it's nice to have confirmation.

lol yay commiseration! *starts support group with della for victims of randomness*

cfm
cfm
Nomad

Apr-19-2006 07:14

*still thinks it's percentages, and the higher numbers mean you will succeed*

Anyway! I've also noticed that the base number has a lot to do with it. If I have two suspects at 84, but as a charming detective talking to a male, and I choose charm(meaning that the tough base is higher), it usually will fail, but if I choose tough, it'll usually work.

But with all the randomness of this game, its very possible that it's just dumb luck.

Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Apr-19-2006 17:55

Yes, there is an element of luck on any of those cooperation stype skill checks. If Judge of Cahracter says you have an Adjusted Interrogation Chance of 59, then that should mean a 59% of success.

The numbers can go over 100, but in those cases, it is still important to get the numbers as high as possible. The reason is because when making those skill tests, the game has a concept of super successes. In the case of a cooperation skill, if a test is passed by a small margin, the suspect will only answer one additional question. If the test is passed by a larger margin, they will answer more than one extra question. So, higher numbers are always better, even when you're talking over 100.

Also, there are a couple of factors that aren't currently taken into account in that Judge of Character report. For instance, the "status" rating of your agency's headquarter does effect these tests but currently that isn't taken into account by Judge of Character. There is also another secret adjustment that I'll keep my mouth shut about. These tend to be small adjustments however, so Judge of Character is very useful to people with duplicated Toogh and Charming skills.

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Apr-19-2006 18:13

*wonders what the secret adjustment is...*

*maybe if Ben likes you or not?**maybe if Ben likes yor or not because you are subscribed and pay him money?*

:)

HEE

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Pinball Amateur

Apr-19-2006 19:30

maybe he adjusts the numbers based on how many times you use "*" in a post... damn you're in a fix jojo! ;)

Della Devine
Della Devine
Well-Connected

Apr-19-2006 19:46

I've actually gotten answers from one townie that I had a 59% chance with and another one clammed on 73% (same case) And then the one that clammed on 113% really gave my head a dent.

*Shakes head and wanders off with Crunch to find that Victims of Randomness meeting*

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