Sleuth Home - Message Boards - Sleuth Talk


0 0
More than two subs in same agency....
  <<First Page  |  <Previous Next>  |  Last Page>>  

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Jun-17-2012 17:57

Everything old is new again... or maybe not.

And let me start with a preemptive "Puh-lease, freedom of speech and all that aside, let's not turn this in to a debacle."

So, 'some' people have been getting up my a... err I mean politely pointing out to me, that the whole "some people have more than two subs in the same agency, and isn't that against the 'rules'" is banging away behind the scenes.

I've asked Ben to look at this with a view to scrapping the concept that more than two subs in the same agency is a 'bad' thing.

To be bluntly honest it's never been particularly well policed unless it was by self-policed by certain players who were trying to edge out the competition in Treasure Hunts.

My personal opinion is that the 'againsts' never really equalled the 'fors', and that we're at the point where as a community the TH scene just isn't that cutthroat any more.

So, I'm more than happy to go with the flow, as I suspect no-one really minds anymore.

But I'll leave the final word to Ben, of course.

Please feel free to discuss politely.

Please limit your lunatic ravings to a minimum nic :D

Replies

nicnic
nicnic
Battered Shoe

Jun-17-2012 20:45

And Ara... you are not blind. I believe this "rule" was in the first CoC that Sunny created, but has since been removed as the CoC has been updated multiple times. I do not however think the removal was intentional, just something that got lost in the mix over the years.

I'll also give my opinion on this. If it ain't in the CoC (which are the rules), then it ain't a rule.

Special_K
Special_K
Lucky Stiff

Jun-17-2012 20:45

I'm the only person in SMRT controlling more than two detectives, and thats only if you count the one I gift subbed :)

Kidding or otherwise, I think I should definitely make that clear.

Jason Arends
Jason Arends
Lucky Stiff

Jun-17-2012 20:46

*sings* Its cause im eaaaaasssyyy


oooooooh oooooh Easy like sunday morning ;)

nicnic
nicnic
Battered Shoe

Jun-17-2012 20:57

I was just joking, K. You guys kicked our proverbial behinds on that hunt earlier so I assumed you were cheating :-P

Like I said, we also have two agents in our agency that aren't real people that are sorta collectively owned by the directors. And other agencies password share up the wazoo and we used to at the original al-Q as well. I don't do it now mostly because all of my agents are new to the game, I don't know them personally yet, and I didn't really want to be all like.... Hey come join my agency and as the first order of bizness... hand over your password to me biatch. That just doesn't feel right. And I just really don't want to be responsible for other people's detectives either. It's just not where I am anymore. If we lose a hunt because we are all in different time zones, then so be it. I think this is probably the general feel of the community these days. Let's just have fun and a little friendly competition is great but I'm not going to sit on Sleuth until 5:00 am running through favors on 8 different detectives trying to win a hunt before SMRT wakes up. Not that that ever happened. I schwears. :-)

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-17-2012 20:59

I've certainly never done that <.<

Nope never!!

Serges
Serges
Vigilante

Jun-17-2012 21:04

I'm calling shenanigans on that, Nic. I've been in chat with you before, madam. :)

Lady Emerald Devon
Lady Emerald Devon
Nomad

Jun-17-2012 22:36

Bluntly: It was people who had more than two subbed detectives in agencies that kept paying subs while a good many people who were against took off.

I think people should play their own game, worry about them and theirs are leave each to their own.

With password sharing, it made this rule irrelevant anyway.

We go on and on about define control or whatever but it boils down to one thing: this is just a game.

If you really care that someone SPENDS MONEY which helps keep this game afloat and spends THEIR OWN TIME playing the game, maybe you need to look at why winning means that much to you.

I know that even when you have passwords for everyone in a 12 person agency and everyone is active, you still don't always win hunts. A lot of it is luck.

Vampiric Smile
Vampiric Smile
Safety Officer

Jun-17-2012 23:36

SS thank you for bringing it up as this issue has cost me and my agency the loss of a great friend and player. Ken left the game because he was accused by a mod of not respecting a code that was not actually existing!
My opinion is
1. When someone wants to pay for more subs ...he/she is free to do it as investing in this game is the only viable way to keep it alive. I hardly have time to control VS and Guiltfinder (and occasionally my daughter's Vampirion) as I am very busy in real life but if someone wants to play sleuth all day....he/she is free to do it 100%.
2. In the past maybe this issue was important as we all remember a player controlling 18 (lol maybe even more) characters in the game... but now (as far as I know at least) none is controlling more than 4. If you really think that 4 are a lot...then I could only give you the example of WoW. There officially a player can control 10 characters in a server and a total of 50 characters across servers! Don't they know that this is an advandage? Ofc they know!....they simply say that if you have time to invest in the game then it is fair! You invest in time play->you get all benefits for doing so!
3. Generally speaking controling multiple characters is not unfair at all as all players can do it! If you don't have time or money to do so ....the least you can do is respect those who can and are willing to do so because they support the game more than you so it is fair to get more benefits for doing so!
4. Passwords sharing is not the same and is actually the only trully unfair behaviour because it does not contribute to the game advancement meaning that it does not bring investments in the game. I know agencies that are placing detectives on favors around a city. Those characters are not played at all...they simply sit on a favor waiting the TH to come to them and only then they are activated.

Vampiric Smile
Vampiric Smile
Safety Officer

Jun-17-2012 23:37

This strategy YES is unfair as the players behind this behaviour do not invest time or money in the game and they only do it to get aTreasure faster making absolutely no effort for it.
5. We are now in a beautiful phase in the game. People are coming back and the community is regrowing. Night Queen (a couple of months ago) , Riza, Molly are running tournaments, Biggie and Serges try to revive AVLs etc...so the least we can do is stop complaining for less important issues and concentrate at the main core of the game....simply people let's play the game!
I would like to finish with a small remark. Moderators should be very cautious when they apply their authority. This game cannot afford to lose players like ken especially now that the community is regrowing. Te respect between casual players and moderators should be mutual


Ms Helen
Ms Helen
Con Artist

Jun-18-2012 00:05

"maybe you need to look at why winning means that much to you."

Because I get such a sense of satisfaction kicking biggie's arse in treasure hunts :D

But yes, whilst I agreed with the rule all those years ago now to be blunt I couldn't care less if someone wants to control 12 or more detectives, I suspect there may be a couple who already do and if so that's great for them, I personally can barely manage my own cases ;) If that makes me a hypocrite so be it, no ones perfect :)


  <<First Page  |  <Previous Next>  |  Last Page>>  

[ You must login to reply ]