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How to attract more people to Sleuth?
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Huglover
Huglover
Old Shoe

Sep-11-2008 06:07

If we could name one simple thing to do in Sleuth Noir, to attract more people to start playing or continue playing Sleuht Noir, what would that be?
I am asking here for things that hopefully would be little effort - much gain. Also, because I guess it would be easier to ask Ben for small-effort things, rather than big-effort things.....
And, I really want us to start growing again. Growing in numbers, growing in happiness and fun. Hopefully making more people feel included in the community.
Where do we put the focus?

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ctown28
ctown28
Tireless Tiger

Sep-12-2008 08:25

There are actually o couple of Sleuth groups out there on facebook, and believe it or not there is a Sleuth related quiz out there as well! ;-)

yoyofoshow
yoyofoshow
Old Shoe

Sep-12-2008 09:15

Which I believe I did quite badly on. :S

Huglover's Assistant
Huglover's Assistant
Well-Connected

Sep-12-2008 11:06

My thought would be that if Sleuth Admin don't give a reply on this post within a few days, stating that he would NOT accept promoting on Facebook or Myspace, we may conclude that there is a permission to do the promotion. The promoting needs to be done by someone who knows how to do such things though (i.e. I don't even know how to make posts - or whatever you do - on Facebook, so I will not be able to do the promoting)

Ms Helen
Ms Helen
Con Artist

Sep-13-2008 02:02

I believe I also did quite sucky on that quiz yoyo so don't feel bad lol.

As far as promoting on facebook I don't think it would be a problem. Like Ctown said there is already a sleuth group on facebook made by Ben himself and on Shades there is one of those linky things (wow my terminology is great as you can see) But basically you can link pages of shades to myspace/facebook etc. Yeah so now I have made myself look like a complete idiot trying to explain that maybe someone with a bit of knowledge could just go take a look and explain it better for me :D

Anyway upshot of all that twaddle was I can't see it being a problem promoting the game when in a sense it already is being :D



Mitstux
Mitstux
Well-Connected

Sep-13-2008 04:54

I have been thinking about it a lot of days before this post was made.

Reviving Noir is not a simple task and could take much more time and I don't think there is a simple ans pain-free way to do it so. Noir is up and running since 2004 so attracting new players or even some of the old players requires a lot of effort.

I read the "Sleuth Updates" section and I believe that Breitkat has figured out a good solution as I also believe that there is no better way to start this attempt by updating the graphic pack of the game.
If Noir doesn't attract people from SoM just to check the new and refreshed Noir , how do we expect to attract people irrelevant to Hypoware's games? I suppose that 7-8/10 of these will return to SoM but those 2-3 will stay and play in Noir too and that can be a first good step.Besides , there are many people who played SoM and didn't like it (I am one of them) and when they checked Noir , they found a game with some oldish (in a bad way) interface.

Whether we like it or not , the success of web browser games depends on 5 factors:
i)Appearance ; Noir lacks in this in my opinion.
ii)Mechanics ; Noir is great on this , some tiny modifications are just needed.
iii)Depth of the game ; Noir is quite good on this and it can get better with Breitkat's suggestion.
iv)Publicity ; efforts can be put on this after the first 3 are achieved and there is no better way to achieve publicity than the players themselves.
v)Community ; the stronger the Community , the longer the game will last.Noir has this but it gets thinner.If we get more people in Noir , it can become even greater.

Stormy Day
Stormy Day
Well-Connected

Sep-13-2008 10:12

Would it be possible to get the VH tournament more automated here in this game so my beloved Ctown doesn't have to spend so much time away from me working on it? ;-)

I think the tournaments are great fun and while we are waiting for agency activity to pick up, treasure hunting to become more competitive and the big tournaments to start we could arrange our own little VH tournaments with other agencies and players.

And while on Treasure Hunts, the trophies are great, fame, etc. But what if the agency who wins the hunt that day gets some super sleuthing power for the day.

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Sep-13-2008 11:03

Facebook, Myspace, and posting links and reviews on other sites are always a great idea. Perhaps there could be a community-organized group to handle such things?

Ben used to have Google Ads for the site, I know. Not sure if those still exist, however.

Anikka
Anikka
Babelfish

Sep-13-2008 11:04

I think Ctown likes manually running the VH tournaments, Stormy. It gives you less time... I mean, it gives him more time to, uhh, do tournamenty things. Yeah. :D

Seriously, automating VH tournaments might be a way to get people to do them more often THAT PEOPLE KNOW OF. Some people might be doing their own team hunts now, but not publicising them. I don't know that they are or aren't, but it's a thought. The thing is to get more than one type of tournament automated, so people can choose what they want to do.

And a question for you, Mitstux: How, in your opinion, is Noir lacking in appearance, and what types of things would you suggest to improve it?

I kind of like the way Noir looks - it's dark and it's simple. But my question is in all seriousness, because some people do want more eye candy. But how to add it without detracting from the tone and mood of the game?

Ms Helen, I'm afraid I completely understood everything you were saying. And don't worry, I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing WITH y... okay, I'm laughing at you. :D Mainly because you sound almost exactly like me!

Brasco De Gama
Brasco De Gama
Old Shoe

Sep-13-2008 12:19

well, the AVH site was meant to automate them... sadly Serges never completed the project and it's run out of steam... not sure it even works properly anymore... so for newbies who haven't seen this, there is another city in Sleuth (kinda)... Chicago... if you log into the AVH website...can't remember the address, but it's somewhere on the boards.

Mitstux
Mitstux
Well-Connected

Sep-13-2008 12:20

I suppose you have seen the movie Sin City Annika so I was thinking Noir turning a bit to that mood.

This generally means darker colors with colorful details (again in a noir mood) . Maybe this could be applied on the city maps , skins and even equipment . Some .gif images could also be used for those who need even more eye candies.

I like the way Noir looks right now too but I think I will really enjoy the transition to the noir look I describe above.

And a proposition about items : How about item sets ? Maybe items sets consisting of 3 , 4 or 5 items ...And the more items you get and wear, the greater the bonuses you receive :~)

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