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R Anstett
R Anstett

Feb-12-2006 17:59

The time is here to start invitations to Mojo Enterprises.

http://www.geocities.com/sleuth.mojo/home.html

This is a group effort by several detectives to create a fun, helpful and competitive enviroment for people to participate in.

We welcome you to look over our guidelines, our code of conduct and mission statement.

To show that we want to help everyone we are also posting for the first ime in public some (not all ;) ) of Mojo's hunting guidelines.

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Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Feb-16-2006 19:24

*quick note for peter*

You can only have 2 detectives of your own per agency.

Casa Nova
Casa Nova
Well-Connected

Feb-16-2006 19:50

I think only time will tell if anything Mojo is doing will really effect the game. It does appear that the union of multiple agencies has its advantages, but is that really true? The logic is there that makes it seem so, but it has not been proven. They can not bring their favors with them to the new agency and not being able to rejoin an agency for 48 hours also really cuts into the advantage. I personally think our “little” agency will enjoy competing with a “superpower.” We have been neck and neck with them for quite sometime and plan on continuing to be a “horn in their side!”

Will it effect the sleuth community? Also yet to be seen. I feel that we all, including Mojo, hope it doesn’t.


R Anstett
R Anstett

Feb-16-2006 20:03

How rotating in a detective can help is similar to what peter said, except when you enter the agency you can not be holding any favors.

It is not cheating to bring in a detective into the agency use up their cases chasing a favor and then kick them out. Ben has flatly declared it is not cheating in previous posts.

I want to say also that I personaly really appreciate Eye Spy being there, forcing us to keep on our toes. I look forward to the day when it is the two of us neck and neck for #1 & #2. I have never had a problem with any detective from their agency and have never felt that they had a problem with us.

One more point on why I do not think this will be the game breaker that others think it will be.

How much work is it to run an agency with 12 real people. Now consider that we are already running 4 agencies with 20+ people are are recruiting more. If I have to put in the work to coordination and training assistance I can not do my cases. It takes a big committment and a lot of organization to make it work smoothly.

R Anstett
R Anstett

Feb-16-2006 20:08

Oh and Shanty, I do have my "what's next" on the back burner for a couple of months till things resettle after this.

I do think that there will be some rule changes to help rebalance things. Perhaps a restriction on PW sharing or on detectives entering an agency in the middle of a hunt. Both have plusses and minuses.

I am told that this is the third time this debate has come up, so I am sure that there will be all sorts of older ideas to resurface as well.

LilRach
LilRach
Well-Connected

Feb-16-2006 20:40

I am a little confused on one issue. I thought there was a rule that if a detective quits an agency, he/she could not join a new agency for one day. Is this rule no longer in force?

Hmm...maybe I should start checking the older threads, I am so confused after reading this one.

Maddie Hayes
Maddie Hayes
Well-Connected

Feb-17-2006 01:45

"Are you really trying to say that the detectives at Mojo should not be allowed to hunt becasue we are too good?"

Is this how you view yourselves? Do you think you are too good because you have thought of a way to further the name of Mojo by inviting and resigning members of many agencies that you created in the other cities just to gain their skills and contacts for the hunts?

Somehow I think not. Cheating comes to my mind, not strategy.
Mojo enterprises? Shouldn't you have an Inc after that? Because it sounds more like a corporation than just an agency. We strive for our favors and cases and if we don't get them we hold, win or lose hunts. Its all part of the game right? But it seems Mojo takes the easy approach and just brings in what it needs at that moment to further ONE name right?

I'm sorry I am bringing this up but this is recent news to me. I had no idea that is what you were doing. I was under the false impression that there were many different agencies and they were all independently doing well on their own. If I am wrong in any of this please explain it to me.

Maddie Hayes
Maddie Hayes
Well-Connected

Feb-17-2006 01:46

Moonlighting is only that - a single agency with a great group of individuals. We stay in one agency and don't swap out. And look how far we have gone in the scoring! I say we definitely keep the high score tables. I like to see how well we are doing in relation to others. We might have just recently started but we will get up there in the high ranks soon. I am very proud of our agency and the work they've accomplished.

I wholly agree with Lady Emerald Devon. You do seem borg like and I or my agents will not be assimilated. *small chuckle* sorry I had to put that in there. I do love to roleplay too. That is why I have my own ezboard. But we have our own fun in our private message boards and we don't need others to come and see what we are up to or how we keep our agency fresh and fun.

And we don't need alliances either. I think we are all doing fine just the way we are. If that is how mojo plays well- thats how you like to win your hunts I guess. We will stick with our own strategy and may very well become Number 1 at the high score tables; some year. I'll have to check with the fortune teller on that one.

And I am not attacking you or any mojos exactly. Just stating my opinion that what your company is doing - just doesn't seem right or very competitive.

Madame TBird
Madame TBird
Well-Connected

Feb-17-2006 03:51

Hmmm.... the brother thing reminds me of an agent from about a year ago. Remember all the freaky posts "his brother" did. Then there was the engagement announcement that was recanted because that agent's "sister" posted it. Irregardless, I think no more than 4 accounts per IP address would be fair. With exception if there is freak or pervert in Sleuthville. Then, they should be banned period.

Arthur Granville Smith
Arthur Granville Smith
Well-Connected

Feb-17-2006 04:10

I would have thought that the recent change to the game that prevents detectives joining a new agency being able to take any favours they hold with them would have addressed the main issue here - at least in my opinion. I can't see how any of the issues surrounding detective rotation can ever be considered as "cheating", but, in my opinion, the idea that you could just import a detective with the next favour required is not in the spirit of the game. The same goes for multi-city hunts where an alliance of agencies ensures no cases are wasted on travelling. Travelling and managing cases is meant to be part of the gameplan, surely?

But as for moving agents with required contacts and skills around and using up all available cases is concerned, I see this as just good resources management.

I'm undecided on the question of alliances. Since hunts are meant to be competitive, the one danger I foresee is that an alliance could grow so big that it dominates the game and wins most or all of the hunts, thus removing the competitive element for themselves as well as everyone else. If that happened, what would be the point of playing?

I think that this discussion may have highlighted what, in my opinion, is the major weakness of this game - once you have got all the skills you want, there is little incentive to play as an individual detective. The only thing left is to do hunts, and if your agency is unable to compete with the larger ones for whatever reason, that can also become both frustrating and boring. I think the idea of individual rather than agency treasure hunts has been raised before. Whatever it was, giving other opportunities for "meaningful" play would at least give people a choice of whether they wanted to be competitive or not, and at least give them a goal to aim for in place of acquiring skills.

Or is this the subject for another thread????

Lady Emerald Devon
Lady Emerald Devon
Nomad

Feb-17-2006 05:31

"It is not cheating to bring in a detective into the agency use up their cases chasing a favor and then kick them out. Ben has flatly declared it is not cheating in previous posts. "

I have never said or implied that Mojos is cheating. I have been nothing but supportive of Mojo's - I still am, except that I felt that recent changes may affect the community spirit of the game. Which some others also think.

Agencies are supposed to have a maximum of 12 players. Bringing in new players and playing their cases then kicking them out is unfair and it is unethical. I am not saying you are cheating, nor that you have done wrong. However, I do think that you need to understand where people are coming from when they state it's unfair.
And as Arabella points out- “The fact that during a multi city hunt, as the smaller agencies must balance and juggle their cases because of traveling expenses, Mojo can simply add in the members from the agency that is currently located in the new city thus not having to spend cases traveling. It is a huge advantage for an agency to have 10-12 members in the home city, who can each work 100-120 cases instead of having to budget and save cases for travel or wait until server reset, just simply rotate members in who still have 10 cases and are already located in the new city”

Once again, not cheating. However, this is NOT ethical or in the spirit of the game.
Now, I admit, I have done this myself and awhile (before all this) ago put a stop to it because it was unethical and unfair.


I guess the only way to stop this, is too prevent a newcomer into an agency joining in a hunt that has already started.

I also know Mojos have, do and will always work hard and no one is denying this. Full credit to your 100 (+) trophies. And I think they are a great agency and the have really fantastic members.

I guess the only way to stop this, is too prevent a newcomer into an agency joining in a hunt that has already started.



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