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Jul-8-2007 05:34

Now that we have a post for trading and selling items and it's a part of the game, could the detective shop be used for this instead?

As it is right now, it's pretty redundant, the stuff in there is pretty much a waste of money too buy even for a new player.

It would make more sense and be so much easier if you could just use the Detective to buy, sell and trade.

I realise this would take some time and work to implement and it wouldn't be easy, but it seem nuts people having to leave their agencies and join another one to buy, sell and trade when there is a shop.

It would also mean that a newbie player who keeps getting Gold Bangles could trade anohter Newbie for the Chemistry sets they keep getting.

I know there was some opposition to this idea before and justified opposition but this is all going on now anyway.
And this will just make the whole process fairer and more open to everyone.

Jul-8-2007 06:01

I like this idea. It seems like it would be easier to find, sell and buy items in a format like this, rather than on various posts and biography pages.

Jul-8-2007 08:16

I like this idea. I don't personally see the big problem with this, though we might be getting hundereds of people offering the same thing i.e. gold bangles.

Jul-8-2007 08:36

While the idea sounds good on the surface the problem becomes one of game balance.

How do you control who gets to take what out of the detective shop? If you simply sell your gear there and it goes on sale to everyone then it becomes a "who clicks fastest" for gear. How would the money be transferred between the detectives? Plus if you keep this as a subscriber only function (to be able to trade gear) you need in effect two stores.

What would be required to happen here is the Detective Store have all the same functions of an Agency, and have some real person man and run the place.

Which actually comes back to what we have. Not the best, but it works out for the limited sort of economy we have here in Sleuth: Noir.

This topic was discussed for the new game and we know there will be inventories, and other ways of dealing with this choices in that platform.

Jul-8-2007 14:01

I don't know if you would have to have the Detective Shop be like an agency. I think if you had an area where you could enter the, "swap meet," and then select the other detective you would like to swap with. (Imagine you're in a game room on say Yahoo Cribbage you don't play one huge game with everyone you pick a partner.) And then in the Swap money and gear could be exchanged. That eliminates the fastest clicker problem and it helps people who have items to exchange. I see an awful lot of people who are trying to get some swanky gear that are subscribed, in an agency and just aren't having luck getting the right item and neither is anyone else in their agency.

Jul-8-2007 19:01

I think its a good idea. Who says you have to swap with anyone specifically? Just put your item up for sale, there's enough players that it should fill up pretty quickly. Player to player specific trades can still take place by swapping agencies, or maybe implementing a way to send items via PM, the same way you can send cash.

Jul-8-2007 19:18

*votes in favor*

Jul-8-2007 19:24

I think a system like this would be a fairly good way to do this but this is just a rough idea.
1. You place an item for sale with a description you would like in return.
2. Then anyone who wants this item can bid and give offers.
3. The seller chooses the bidder he wishes to exchange with.
4. Both parties agree on the terms
5. Both parties receive the good or money, directly onto their avatar.

Jul-9-2007 01:10

*likes it too*

could save a whole bunch of pesky travel cases...

Jul-9-2007 02:58

Sleuth-Bay, or should that be "sBay".

Or - this type of transaction could be arranged in the local bar as part of the Chat with Other Customers. Via PMs you agree which bar to meet in then go into a private booth to make your transaction. This might make the technical side a bit easier.

Jul-9-2007 03:21

Yoyo,
That's kind of how I figured the Trading thing would work :)
Maybe there could be a trade option in the PM system.
So someone could click "Trade" then an equipment/item list would come up and you'd click which item you want to trade. The person at the other end then gets a Trade PM that they can agree or disagree with.
Maybe only items your wearing at the time could be traded.
Hmm, actually the more I think about the Trade the option the harder it seems to implement... and then it would it only be a Director's priviledge or what.
It would be nice if everyone had their only private lockers/inventory then their was still the agency stash :) that way it could work.

The sale thing would be much simpler.
You could just put the item in the store with a price that you want and hope someone buys it.
To be fair, I think there'd have to be a minimum sell price though that you couldn't go under.

Maybe let detectives sell at the shop and keep the trading post, I dunno :)
I just think the shop is underused. I have no actual real idea if this could work or how it would work or the effort it would take.