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Nov-4-2005 07:48

I just concluded an investigation where I accused the wrong man (he had an alibi, but wouldn't share it with me - a fact clearly leading to his downfall). However, I found his hair at the crime scene and a witness who saw him wearing the victims watch. It took me ages to track down this final piece of evidence.
I thought two pieces of evidence were all that were required for an accusation to be correct, even in the absence of a fake/none alibi, or is this dependent upon the level of mystery. (this one was stupendously hard - clearly).

Nov-4-2005 08:23

A not shared alibi is not the same as fake/none - without a fake/none you would need 2 pieces of witness evidence, not just one.

Nov-4-2005 09:10

I think you need to distinguish between physical and witness evidence.

drum roll please :) (for cfm of course)


False Alibi + Witness evidence guilty
False Alibi + Physical evidence = guilty
No alibi (they clammed and won't tell you or you can't check it) you need 2 witness evidences to = guilty

Nov-4-2005 09:29

does that mean that the second piece of evidence has to be from a witness. IE a piece of PE and a piece of WE are non-interchangeable?

Nov-4-2005 09:33

They are not interchangeable.

Nov-4-2005 09:36

One piece of either kind of evidence is enough if there is truly no alibi (not just a person clamming) or a false alibi.

There will never be more than one piece of physical evidence for a murderer.

There will be false witness evidence for another suspect, so you can only count on it if you have know you are lacking a real alibi or you have TWO pieces of witness evidence.

Nov-4-2005 14:38

Read my thrread (which I created sort of foolishly) called "The Tailor's Lie":

http://newyork.hypoware.com/map/cityhall/post.spy?id=8483

It may help for people who have asked the wrong questions and have gotten the wrong answers.

Nov-4-2005 15:41

*can't help but chime with the only redundant thing left to say*

PE+WE does NOT = Guilty

Nov-5-2005 04:45

-->"There will never be more than one piece of physical evidence for a murderer"

but keep in mind there usually is more than 1 piece of PE, and the other PE is pointing to someone with a valid Alibi. So, just because you have PE against someone who refused to tell there alibi, thats not neccessarily guilty.

Nov-5-2005 10:06

Right, depending on case level, there are up to four pieces of PE, but only one will actually be connected to the murderer. The others can be viewed as red herrings, or people contaminating the crime scene. My point was really that you can't look for two pieces of PE to be connected to the same person, as they never will be. Thanks for the clarification, Kali.