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Taking another look at recent false Accusations
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Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Mar-12-2012 00:08

There have been a few complaints recently about undeserved False Accusations and cases where the player thinks there was a structural problem (a guilty suspect without proper evidence or a good alibi, or the reverse for an innocent.

Given how long it has been since I've made any changes that affect the core game rules (and how many cases have been played), I don't see any reason that a new structural bug has appeared. That said, I've had enough complaints made by experienced players that it is worth taking a look.

Sooo, I'm going to go through any FA's that you think may have resulted from a bug in the past two months.

Please reply to this thread with the approximate date of any such FA's (I know it's tough to recall exactly) and I'll poke the data with a stick.

One other question, IF it were possible to replay an FA (without possibility of reward or further penalization) would you all be interested in doing that? How important do you think that update would be?

Thanks all.


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Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Mar-14-2012 00:00

If we allowed replaying the case, it would be the exact same case. No random changes between plays. Kind of like playing the same scripted mystery twice.


Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Mar-14-2012 14:19

So you are saying, theoretically, that a glitch repeats itself just like a bug when the related procedure is repeated?

And isn't it possible that a glitch could still occur without a "structural problem" in Noir case-solving?

ctown28
ctown28
Tireless Tiger

Mar-16-2012 20:14

I have had my share of FA's, not many have I reported when I thin its wrong, but after review It was removed or I accepted my mistake.

Unless I am reading this wrong, everyone wants Ben to keep track of their every move.

Chances are if you got an FA, you missed something.



Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Mar-17-2012 15:24

- No it was Ben's offer to check recent FA cases if demanded. My suggestion was totally different. It was not even re-solving a game, it was rather watching the game play. (very low quality screen shots of each page in the exact order the user has opened and clicked on etc.)

- There's a difference between possiblity and probability.

- Glitch and bug, each refers to different sorts of problems.

- A glitch has a low probability to occur but a bug is likely to occur every time a certain thing happens and implies a problem in coding.

- People have solved thousands of cases to this day.

But they have mentioned possiblity of glitches rarely. Most probably, they have not claimed that it was a glitch every time they made a false accusation.
And that has a reason, too. So, you see, I don't think it's really that much about people having a hard time accepting their mistakes. One has got to at least admit there there are just as many people who thought something weird happened as those who wanted to blame it on the software. You have no reason to think otherwise.

And just the same, a low probability for the occurence of a glitch means a low probability of complaints. Simple statistics. So it's not actually weird to have wtinessed few complaints.

I think it's worth attention when someone says they quit a case where the killer turned out to be one with a valid alibi. And this is just an example of two or three more I have seen in some threads.

I told Ben all about that already. And I am totally ok with it if he says "no."

Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Mar-20-2012 01:28

Nah, it wouldn't need to keep track of every move. The point would be to allow you another chance to play the case to see if you could correctly solve it if you made different choices.

It doesn't require tracking all the moves you made in the order you made them, just to duplicate the starting condition of the case. The system actually already does this. We store the entire case structure for all FA's when the wrong suspect is accused. This is the way I'm able to go back and analyse disputed cases.


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