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Nov-26-2009 13:54

Some time ago, a thread was posted: what can I do for Sleuth? - and I was thinking about it. At that time, when I told about what I thought I could do, I was told that my "developer team" dream was completely dead. And, perhaps it was, in the format that was availiable at that time?

As some of you might know, I am a programmer of heart. People have been frustrated with me because of this earlier, but I do hope we may put this behind us? I have never forced anything onto any of you. My offer have always been completely free, for those who actually want it.

Same is true this time. I have noticed that other web pages that support Sleuth go inactive, and want to do something about it. I am working on putting up a web site with what I hope will be inspirational to some of you. ( If you visit and find that you don't like it, then, please don't return. The site is only intended for those of you who actually do like it and would want to help me extend it. Not everyone.

It's MUCH undone at the moment, but I AM working to get something up. The site is intended to be a place for the part of the community that always wanted to help add and give back to this great game. I hope you will understand that it's no competitor to the original - rather the oposite. It's meant to be supportive. This is "my" development team idea put into action, and I do hope you will see it as my contribution to what I can do for Sleuth.

There is a LOT I CANNOT do for Sleuth, and that's why I would like to connect with people who want to help. Especially writing and collecting...

Those of you who want to help me, send me a PM.
Those of you who don't want to, please don't mind what I am doing.
Want to know what it's about? - read the idea page.
Not everything is nailed down yet, and I would be happy to get suggestions.

This is intended as a one-time-post. Want to get rid of it? - bring other threads into focus. ;-


Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Nov-30-2009 08:57

Hi all,

I'm going to do what I can to support Irene in this project. I really like the idea of the community adding this kind of content, and am excited to see what she comes up with.

So, there isn't really an issue from the copyright and IP permissions angle, as she asked for permission from me some time ago.

There is, obviously, some concern from the security and trust angle. As of now, if you use the Sleuth Noir Extended site, you are trusting her (and anybody else who works on the project) with your credentials. We will need to add a system to allow users to grant permissions to external tools, without trusting their passwords to 3rd party sites. But, for now we don't have that.

So, I am going to go ahead and add a link to Irene's site on the Community Sites page. That link will also contain a popup alert notifying the user about the security risks. I'm doing this right now (before working out a better security mechanism) because I don't want to stunt the site's development.

That said, please note that by providing your Sleuth credentials to any 3rd party site you are completely trusting the site administrators with your Sleuth account. So for now, I would suggest only people who are involved in the project to login there.

Safety Officer

Nov-30-2009 17:39

Thanks Ben for giving us a response. Much appreciated.


Dec-1-2009 01:00

Thank you very much Ben. I feel so honored.

I agree with you on the login thing, and would be VERY happy if we may come up with a different way of doing it, so that it will not be only that I don't tap any passwords, but it will make me completely unable to do so.

The major new content thing to add on my site are "missions". This is something I would very much want the help of the community to do. I'll describe it here, as the main part of creating a mission is creativity, and you may start thinking of it and plan until we get a completely safe way for you to go to my site and put it up.

So, what is a "mission". The most basic missions are:
* bring an item to someone
* sell an item to someone
* complete a favor for someone
* ask someone a specific question
- in some ways I guess you have seen all of them already?

Now, what would make the "bring an item to someone" a little more entertaining to do will be if it is a specific item, and to a specific person, and also have a somewhat interesting description accompanying it.

Say, it's a bird you need to bring somewhere, because on that spot there is something you can see that is too far away for you to get. And when the bird is with the player, you may create a story of the bird flying up and getting this something. If you also add a picture or two to this, and decide yourself how obvious the mission to complete are described, I believe it may be quite interesting to try to complete the mission for other players.

If you need new items or new locations to create your missions, the plan is to bring this in to my site as well. My site is intended to be a place where the community can add content to the game in various forms. I will bring up separate message boards to hold discussions, and enable you to guide me into what will be possible to add, and what you want to have. In no way though will I do something that will contradict with the original.

Old Shoe

Dec-1-2009 06:52

Thank you, Ben, it's good to hear from you on this.

And thank you Irene :) - for your obvious love of this game and attempting to bring new and interesting facets into it via your site (with Ben's blessing, of course)

Let's all share the love!

The Contessa
The Contessa
Old Shoe

Dec-1-2009 07:08


I look forward to visitng your site when it's developed, Irene. And I will put on my thinking cap, too :) :)

Gopher to the Sleuth Gods

Dec-1-2009 07:30

Thanks Ben for clearing this up. Irene's ideas are excellent and is sure to be an asset to Noir.

And thanks Irene for all these new ideas which sound quite promising. I really look foreward to visiting your site and trying it out.


Dec-28-2009 06:01

This is a test post - to see if it's working to make posts from the extended site.

Current updates:
* A plan agreed with Ben, to allow login without giving your password
* The ability to create new items, as well as looking at those not yet approved.
* The ability to start registering missions (even though this needs more work)
* A small message board for site specific issues. (Other things, like Role Playing, please use the original, as we don't want to drain traffic from it).
* A prospect of a new location to travel to.
* A prospect for a dog shop in Shanghai

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