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Winston Wolf
Winston Wolf

Feb-10-2009 11:05

Hi,
I just finished quite a strange case. I don't know the title of the case but i'll tel what i know:
Hard case
People in the case:
Zoe Watson
Karl Driscall
Kelvin Giron
Spencer Allen
Madalyn Barwarth
Silvanus Andrews
Alexander Emry
Tobias Amezcua
I had foot print (but it was a false leed) and hand writing (right hand person).
Zoe Watson (ded)
suspects:
Tobias Amezcua (client) alibi: ?? (waitres didnt tel-I didnt pay), right hand
Silvanus Andrews no alibi, right hand.
everybody else left hand or confirmed alibi, and Alexander Emry (reserch). The banker confirmed that handwriting matches to Tobias Amezcu. But.. wrong the killer was left hand Madalyn Barwarth.
Is it even posible?? How could it hapen?? I was sure. Everything matched.

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Winston Wolf
Winston Wolf

Feb-10-2009 12:51

Yes, i don't have thread and hair analisis but i thought that when i found a handwriting and it was written by a right hand person and the handwriting matched it is enought to know the killer. Now i'm working on favor case and may main suspect have died alwso i found a person who suspects him. I think it's not my lucky day :P

Winston Wolf
Winston Wolf

Feb-10-2009 12:58

Uh. No one wants to talka no one knows nothing and the hand writing doesn't fit to any one with false or no alibi. It's realy "The Head-Scratching Search for the Lost Murder". Eh 3rd case droped :(

Winston Wolf
Winston Wolf

Feb-10-2009 13:02

Uh. No one wants to talka no one knows nothing and the hand writing doesn't fit to any one with false or no alibi. It's realy "The Head-Scratching Search for the Lost Murder". Eh 3rd case droped :(

lilangel
lilangel
Sleuth About Town

Feb-10-2009 13:12

I'd strongly suggest getting the analysis for hair and thread before attempting harder cases. Good luck on future cases.

Winston Wolf
Winston Wolf

Feb-10-2009 13:31

Thanks but.. now i'm working on hard case and i had 2 suspects (had 1 is alredy ded :P ). It looks quite easy now but.. 2 people says that suspect no. 1 is guilty and 1 person thinks that Edina Albertson is guilty ferthermore the handwriting matches to Edina Albertson but she has confirmed alibi. I assume that the suspect no. 1 is guilty.. i hope.. he beter be.. :P

ctown28
ctown28
Tireless Tiger

Feb-10-2009 13:35

look over in the newbie thread for th eformula to determine gulit, one of the parameters are 2 WE = guilty which you do have, since 2 suspect #1

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
Well-Connected

Feb-10-2009 14:44

Don't hard cases only have 2 pe?

Are you sure your footprint was a false lead? Did it belong to someone with a real alibi?

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
Well-Connected

Feb-10-2009 14:45

I could certainly be wrong on that, it's been a while. . .

topkebab
topkebab
Lucky Stiff

Feb-11-2009 00:46

Hard cases can have more than 2 PE i think. I'd say follow Ctown's advice and look through the newbie board to find some formula. Also i'd strongly recommend getting basic thread and hair analysis a.s.a.p. as you might not find all the physical evidence without them.

Joey
Joey "Bulldog" Bane
Washed Up Punter

Feb-11-2009 00:55

Winston, regarding the case you described in the thread opening: hard cases can have 2 OR 3 suspects, not counting the one you rull out with research. So basically, you were left with 1 dead suspect (Zoe), one sure suspect (Silvanus - no alibi) and one possible suspect (Tobias - you did not know). So, you already had met the minimum suspects number (Zoe and Silvanus) and you should've checked for the 3rd alibi. You would've found out that it was real. This means that you had a 3rd piece of evidence that you didn't find becouse you were missing the skill for it. This also answers Dredd's question: hard cases can have 2 OR 3 pieces of evidence.

So, Winston, your case was basically simple: 2 suspects and 3 pieces of evidence. You just didn't have enough skill for all the evidence and also you didn't have clear the possible suspects/evidence combinations for the hard difficulty.

As for the formulas of determining the killer, ctown is right. Read the newbie thread. As far as I know it's like this:
- 2 WE - guilty (no need to know alibi)
- 1 WE + fake/no alibi - guilty
- 1 PE + fake/no alibi - guilty
Also...I guess if you have all evidence skills (which makes you sure you found all of them) and you matched all but one pieces of evidence to real alibies suspects, the last one will point to the guilty one.

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