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Old Shoe

Jan-25-2008 11:08

In order to try to make a contribution to the improvement of Sleuth Noir, I have decided to give away 5 "prices" of 1 month gift subscription to 5 different sleuths that already have or during the next period will come with the best suggestion(s) to improve Sleuth Noir on one or more following areas:
* Doing something to improve the game-speed
* Getting more people to subscribe to Sleuth Noir
* Making Sleuth Noir more fun to play
* Something else the judges approve of

So, it's time to open that creative vein of yours, and come with suggestions and post them on this board. It's no part in the judging whether the suggestion will be implemented into Sleuth Noir or not, as this is for Sleuth Admin to decide. In my eyes, it doesn't even have to be your idea originally.

Even though I haven't asked them, I had hoped that a jury of
Jojo, Stooby, Roamie, Secret Squirrel and Lady Jas would voulenteer to search out the most worthy. I would be happy if you made a reply to this posting saying whether you accept or not. Please decide among those of you accepting the task how you would like to organize. You all seem to be active on the boards, and I do trust that you will be fair. You are also free to "adjust" the important topics, but I have put down my suggestions, and what I would like to encourage. Also, decide for how long the "competition" will last. Preferably less than a month.

I myself don't have the capacity to search out and find the good recievers of a gift subscription, that's the reason why I humbly ask those mentioned to join forces and help me with the task. I would guess (but may be wrong) that the "recivers" are less than 100 days old, as the older might already have long lasting subscriptions, and one additional month would be as a drop in the sea. Also, I think that the jury themself cannot be among the "recivers".

I hope that when the jury have made their decicion, they will post it here and send me a PM with the name of the selected winners



Jan-25-2008 13:41

HugLover, I think you have some really good intentions. However, I dont see how anyone can do something to improve game speed. I think that is something Ben is working on and from his reponse in another thread it appears to be an issue with the way Sleuth Noir was programmed from the very beginning.

There have been some sleuthers in the past who have done things to make this game "more fun". A contest was ran by Biggie and Serges awhile back and was very popular as far as I could tell. There was no programming required, it was ran on the message boards.

Jojo currently runs contests and gives out free subscription on the sleuthtips website. Perhaps he would be willing to give his input on if he thinks a contest like this would get a good response.

I will do whatever I can to help.

Old Shoe

Jan-25-2008 14:13

It might not be possible to anything with any of the topics I listed.
What I thought that my minor contribution would lead to, was at least 5 more months of subscription fee to the drifting of the Sleuth server.

I am not quite sure if I think it will be so much fun out of those money if I just subscribed one more character, or extended the subscription on one of those I have, so I thought that I might give them away.

If the community think this is a bad idea, then, all I can say are sorry.
- and we just agree on deleting the whole post.

But, if we deal with the game speed, may be someone are able to search the internet, and find a place to host Sleuth Noir that got better conditions (server capacity, connection speed or anything) at a very good price, hopefully better than the cost Ben have to pay right now.

It says in the Game Info pages that Sleuth Noir is run on a MySql database. May be someone got a spare licence, or any other way of making a fully legal deal for a more powerful database that could run Sleuth, and this would improve the speed? I think Ben once told that the Database was a bottleneck.

May be Ben would be willing to share some information about some interesting limiting themes, and then someone might help finding a solution to it?

I did not expect improving game speed, or anything elst I listed would require programming, but I thought that creative minds and problem solvers might come up with ideas. What makes Sleuth "more fun" I thought I'll leave to the jury. In my mind, it could be anything from new fancy extensions to Sleuth, new ways of using the message boards, some funny stories, a special intro?

To me it seems like what Jojo does, are trying to generate traffic to his website, thus generating income from ads he have put on his pages, and then returning the net income into free subscriptions to those who subscribe to his newsletter. This is different.

Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Jan-25-2008 15:49

Sure Huglover, I'll help out in any way I can! :) Sounds like a good thing you've got going so far!

Old Shoe

Jan-25-2008 20:17

If you are wanting to give away free subs, I'm willing to help.

And no, Huglover. The ads on the site simply bring in more revenue than it costs for the site to run. Instead of taking that profit, I decided it would be best to give it back to Sleuth and to the site's visitors by giving away subscriptions. I don't really do it for the traffic (although I don't mind it since it means I can help more people and give away more free subscriptions ), but to give back. The only reason the newsletter is part of the giving away is to get the site out to more people and since it is the only form of a sign up I have on the site.

I think no matter what you do, free subscriptions will attract. However, I must agree with roamie. You can't fix game speed with a suggestion. That's up to Ben, and he is looking for/working on a permanent solution.

Mai Capome
Mai Capome
Old Shoe

Jan-26-2008 01:45

I know my name is not mentioned, but I'd be willing to help.

I think a free subscription to someone who plays but is not a subscriber would be a good idea, dangle the carrot as it were.
Let them know what their missing when the sub runs out. Ive noticed there are a few of them.

So...... I'd be willing to offer 2 seperate one month subscriptions to two players who have been playing and just need that extra bit of temptation.
I feel their score may need to play a certain part in this offer.

(Hope i'm not stepping out of line here or treading on anyone's toes, that really is not my intention).

Old Shoe

Jan-26-2008 02:45

I have calculated and set aside the money for 5 gift subscriptions, but I need you judges (who are willing) to help me tell who are going to get them. That's the deal.

A creative mind might come up with thoughts, suggestions, solution, ideas that noone have thought about, so I would not say something are impossible. On the other hand it might be very difficult. Notice I even put in a point of something else the judges approve of. And, it might be a reward for something already contributed/done, or something that are done in the next "period" (whatever length the period has)

Jojo: I am not as good as you to phrase a thought, but I think we meant the same ;-) I really apreciate your good and non-selfish heart in this matter, but when I thought about it, I felt that it would be messy if I just tried to somehow add my gift subscriptions in your "bucket". I am happy if you are willing to help.

Mai Capome: I think your offer are very great! It's very generous of you. But, it would be nice if you said something more about how you would like the selection process to be, as I don't want anyone to tread on your toes either. ;-)

Mai Capome
Mai Capome
Old Shoe

Jan-26-2008 03:38

I dont know lol, was hoping you'd help me out there.

Maybe along the lines of the two highest (non-subscribed players), that apply to your judges, within a given period, or about the time your ready to give yours away, what ever suits you and the judges.

Maybe the help of Sleuth Admin, by sending a generic message to all unsubbed players, (Dont know if thats possible), just a thought.

Wont be treading on my toes, Im just going with the idea that if i can get two more people to subcribe after their sub ends then I've achieved something to help the game. Start small I say lol.

Story Teller

Jan-26-2008 04:25

I'm ok with helping out on this, but I really must admit I'm thick as a brick and don't really understand the concept completely. Nor am I sure that this is something an unsubbed newbie might understand or be able to contribute to given the limited time they have to play and therefore the limited knowledge they have upon which to base an idea/suggestion on any of the *'s above. But like I said I'm happy to help out as long as I'm loaded, cocked and pointed in the appropriate direction. SS


Jan-26-2008 08:38

As Huglover said, she guessed the recievers would be fairly new, but immediately said she might very well be wrong. May be the main reason she thought so is because she is too addicted to the game, and think everyone as old as her are equally addicted, and have made subscriptions that last so long into the future that one additional month subscription would not make any difference. I think she hoped a one month gift subscription would make so much difference that it would bring at least 1 minute of joy ;-)
Huglover are frustrated about the game speed, and thought she might try to do something that would impact it.
* If someone (if possible) are able to find anything that would impact the speed directly, and point in some direction it would be fine. That would be an direct impact.
* If someone would help getting more subscribers to Sleuth, it would increase the income or balance for Sleuth, and may be making allowing for Ben to do something that might impact the speed.
* If someone would help getting the game even more fun or attractive, it might either get more subscribers, or make some of the current subscribers stay subscribed longer.
* If someone contributes in a way the willing judges approve, it might add something to the game, that will make it more fun or attractive or something else good or nice. This might also impact the number of subscribers.
* Anyway it's hoped that the gift subscriptions will impact the subscription base, at least for a shorter time.
* It might very well be that the "winners" already are subscribed, but hopefully they are still there where one "gift month" will be seen as a reward for some contribution they have done. So hopefully the current subscription of the winners run out before 2010... ;-)

(The content of this posting is cleared with Huglover)

Tireless Tiger

Jan-26-2008 09:30

This is a really good idea for a thread Huglover. As I was driving into work today I came up with an idea for a change in the game. It may belong in Sleuth Wish List but this spot is just as good. For the record I am not posted it here because I am enticed about the chance for a free sub, in fact you can take me out of the chance to win as it's really not anything that fits the criteria you previouly mentioned.

Like some of the others have stated, there is not much we can do about the game speed, awhile back Ben tried upgrading the server from Mysql, I don't remember what he was upgrading to but the end result was the opposite of what he had hoped for. At that time I did some research on such things and wasn't able to find much, but I'm not a programmer, I'm an analyst.

Oh yeah, I had an idea. In agency locker rooms, how about a space for us to add comments just like we do when filing cases. Having something like this could eliminate confusion between agents taking something that was put in for someone else. For instance, if someone was storing Mother or Pearl glasses for me to take to the Tea Steepers or Tigers they could add teh nore "For ctown and the Tea Steepers" Granted it is up to the agents themselves and the Directors to keep the lines of communication open, but this could be another communication tool that is used.

What does everyone think of this idea?

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