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Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-16-2007 17:29

I really, really don't want to go make a new character, because I've invested a lot of time in it. I've looked at the high scores list and seen that you CAN succeed with this archetype, so my question is this: what can I do, without rerolling, to succeed? Should I buy smarts gear? Should I focus on smarts-based skills?

These are the skills I have:
Intermediate Sweet Talking
Judge of Character
Lock Picking
Interrogation
Intimidation
Hair Analysis

Which skills do I, as a tough/charming detective, need to buy next?

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Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Aug-16-2007 18:11

Pick Charming or Tough. And pretend you're that. :D

Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Aug-16-2007 18:45

I actually have both tough and charming skills as well as smarts. What I did is I started with either a tough or charm skill, then the next skill would be a smart skill, then another tough or charm. I rotated back and forth. Worked for me :)

Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-16-2007 19:40

Would you recommend I buy smart equipment to make up for it?

Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Aug-16-2007 20:29

PM sent.

Arabella Parker
Arabella Parker
Well-Connected

Aug-16-2007 22:09

One thing people seem to get hung up on is your arch type affecting game play. The arch type you pick, or the background (retired police officer, Moonlighting Dilettante) does not help or hurt your actual playing of a case. You can pick a very charming detective arch type and buy all tough interview skills and be very successful. Your arch type give a discount on the purchase price of the skills. But it does not affect your cases. Only your skill level (basic, intermediate, advanced) and your clothing will affect how well you are able to question the suspects and townies.

So don't worry about the label tough and charming. It just means that you get a discount on both the tough and charming skills. You can use either, or you can pick one side to build up first. Either way, the best thing you can do is play a lot and at a case level that is challenging to you.

Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-16-2007 22:54

Yeah, I'm just wondering because I've been buying tough and charm skills/equipment because it's my archetype.

Breitkat
Breitkat
Pinball Amateur

Aug-17-2007 12:59

The reason why veterans (like me ;-) tend to tell newer players to stick with one side of the skill hierarchy (pick either tough or charming), is that as a player who's building up experience and skills, the skill points you accumulate come at a much faster rate than they do for ol' timers like me. By the time you hit the 100k exp. mark, you should have enough skill points to get all of the regular (ie. non-faction) smart skills AND the interviewing skills for one side of the hierarchy (ie. the tough skills, incl. pugilism, or the charming skills, incl. flirting). If you try and go for both sets of interview skills, you won't have enough points to acquire both sets when you reach the 100k mark, and things start getting tougher for you in acquiring skill points and working cases. It doesn't mean it can't be done; it just means that things tend to be more difficult, and waiting to build up the second set of interview points until a little later often makes things a bit easier. ;-)

Breitkat
Breitkat
Pinball Amateur

Aug-17-2007 13:08

Since you've already gone with one advanced skill already (Intermediate Sweet-Talking), I'd suggest you might want to keep going with the charming skills. You do, however, have both basic levels of the tough skills (Interrogation and Intimidation), so that's a plus for the tough side.

Right now, Ginny, you're really looking at a six-of-one, half-a-dozen decision. Whichever side you choose, it shouldn't take you very long to even things out. ;-)

Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-17-2007 23:48

Yeah, I'm wondering if tough might make more sense? Because if I buy intermediate interrogation, I'll have better tough than charming - and I can always use the charming as a fallback if Judge of Character says tough isn't going to work. I don't think it's TOO much of a loss, really, since Interrogation and Sweet Talking came with the original skillset, so all I really did badly was up the sweet talking.

Okay, so after I buy intermediate interrogation, I'll have this:

Intermediate Sweet Talking
Judge of Character
Lock Picking
Intermediate Interrogation
Intimidation
Hair Analysis
Thread Analysis

What would you recommend my next skill be after that? Something from Smarts? Stress Detection?

Breitkat
Breitkat
Pinball Amateur

Aug-18-2007 00:04

One skill that comes in handy for most people is Research. It eliminates one suspect with a false alibi completely from your list (there's no way they could have killed your victim, cause they were off doing something else. The Hall of Records tells you what.) You might think about getting that, or keep building up your tough skills.

Lookin' good! ;-)

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