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captain budkini
captain budkini

Oct-18-2005 20:19

k my first case. a few questions. if someones alibi is "real" does that guarantee theyre not the killer? do you NEED physical evidence to accuse? cuz all i have is handwriting and the banker is already clamming up... also if the physical evidence (such as handwriting) does NOT match someone, is that a guarantee they are not the killer?? thanks so much

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captain budkini
captain budkini

Oct-18-2005 20:36

k i finished my case and went with instinct, since the banker wasnt helping on handwriting. but i could of sweorn the banker HAD told me that ONE person didnt match the handwriting, and that person was the murderer. is it just me not paying attention? or is it possible for the killer to not match PE?

Andiyana
Andiyana
Super Steeper

Oct-18-2005 21:20

It is possible for the killer to not match PE. But it always matches one of your suspects, whether they did it or not. You can also use witness evidence to accuse the guilty party.

captain budkini
captain budkini

Oct-18-2005 21:48

lol hmm.. whats the point of it matching if it wont lead to the killer?? espeically threatening notes lol.. but ok at least now i know for next time.. thanks! oh btw.. is there ANYTHING that is guaranteed to point to a kiler? is witness evidence reliable? what about hints.. like XX hasnt seen or heard anythign suspicsious? is it guaranteed that if i ask XX that question theyll respond with nothign?

Andiyana
Andiyana
Super Steeper

Oct-18-2005 22:07

It's a combination of points...

a) motive
b) at least ONE piece of evidence, witness or physical
and c) either no alibi or a false one

Any time a suspect meets all three criteria, it's enough to ensure guilt, and they can be accused. Alibi is usually a good place to start, it'll generally cut your list in about half. Then see if the evidence fits one of the remaining suspects who are potentially guilty.

But as for one single piece of evidence pointing you straight to the killer, the cases don't work like that. They have to meet all three requirements to be guilty.



Rojer Lorn
Rojer Lorn

Oct-19-2005 02:45

Also, don't forget, if you don't have the Hair Analysis skill and the Thread Analysis skill, you won't find those items of evidence. Unlike footprints and notes which are always found if available.

So it might seem that the crime only has a note, but there could also be a Hair or a Thread which you didn't find, and that is the piece of evidence against the actual killer.

cfm
cfm
Nomad

Oct-19-2005 05:54

*tosses the formula's just for good measure*

PE+Fake/"none of your busineess" Alibi=guilty
WE+Fake/"none of your business" Alibi=guilty
2 WE = guilty

PE=Physical Evidence WE=Witness Evidence


Sherlock H0lmes
Sherlock H0lmes
Well-Connected

Oct-19-2005 06:44

*tosses cfm in for good measure*

Moonshh
Moonshh
Well-Connected

Oct-19-2005 07:44

cfm's got it down pat. But just to clarify something R Anstett said,

"And if the PE does not match then, yes it means they did not do it. Of course it only means that there could be other PE against that person."

There are up to four pieces of physical evidence per case, varying by level. Depending on your evidence skills, your smarts gear, and luck, you might not find them all. Of the evidence you find, only one item will connect with the killer. So if a note wasn't written by a particular person, it doesn't mean that person wasn't the killer. It just means they can't be connected to the crime by that particular note.

The fact that up to three pieces of evidence will potentially lead you astray in solving the case is part of the challenge of the game. I look at it as those people having contaminated the crime scene, whether before or after the crime. That way it still makes sense to me.

If all the evidence had to belong to the killer, we'd sometimes be looking for an ambidextrous suspect who was both slim and heavy, and various other unlikely combinations!

And about the hints from the townspeople, yes captain. If you ask the person who "hasn't seen or heard anything suspicious" whom they suspect, they won't suspect anyone.

Finally, in regard to cfm's fabulous formula, remember that clamming up about alibi DOES NOT COUNT! They have to be proven false or actually tell you they don't have an alibi.

mave nave
mave nave
Old Shoe

Oct-19-2005 12:25

sorry but I must disagree about the townspeople.
I have had them say: X does know anything. But then X gives the WE against the suspect who is indeed guilty.
AND
they have said : Y thinks they know who the killer is. Only to have Y give WE against a suspect with an alibi.


Moonshh
Moonshh
Well-Connected

Oct-19-2005 15:06

Hmm. I've never experienced the first example you give, mave, but you could be right.

On the second example, though, Y only /thinks/ they know who the killer is. That doesn't mean they are right! That's why you need WE PLUS a fake alibi or 2 WE to accuse. So I wouldn't say the second instance is a flaw, just a game feature to be reckoned with.

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