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Feb-20-2005 13:54

I was on an intermeadiate case and had narrowed down 3 suspects. A townie said Radcliffe, a suspect with a real alibi, thought he knew who the murderer was. I asked him and he saw Abdullah dispose the murder weapon. I could not confirm this with any material evidence, for the townies had clammed up. But, since the witness saw the suspect dispose of the murder weapon, I thought that was enough and accused him. But that was false! Can the suspects lie?

Feb-20-2005 14:01

Yes the suspects can lie. If you are relying on eyewitness evidence, with NO false or "none of your business" alibi, you need 2 eyewitness accounts to be sure you have the right guy.

Feb-20-2005 16:18

They are all lying dogs! Don't trust them!! Well, actually mr mason is right - there are circumstances - like two fingering the same suspect or one if the alibi is false. But in my heart, I believe they ARE all lying dogs. I am much happier with a thread or a footprint.

Feb-20-2005 16:26

I know people claim one witness accusation is enough if the alibi is false, but I am still not sure about this...so I make my decisions accordingly when I am playing.

Feb-20-2005 17:19

Thanks, mr. mason, bigdoc and Moonshh! This is very ellucidating. So far, whenever I got "yes, I suspect someone because I saw him...", the case was solved. It was really a surprise to find they could be misleading, especially because the lying suspect had a real alibi and had seen the other suspect simply dispose of the murder weapon! I'll be more cautious now...

Feb-20-2005 23:28

You can ignore the reason they give you (murder weapon, stolen watch etc...). The reason is not important. Whats important is if the person they suspect has a fake/none alibi or if other witness named the same person.

Feb-20-2005 23:45

a suspect could have PE but still be innocent right?

Feb-20-2005 23:52

Yes, all suspects with PE are innocent with the only exception being the killer (who has a PE in every case).

Feb-21-2005 15:00

the key is FAKE or NONE as alibi (if u rely on PE)

Feb-21-2005 16:27

Just to make sure - a FAKE or NONE alibi with any type of evidence is enough? Or is PE more reliable than WE?
I hope at least that real alibi always means not guilty :))

Feb-21-2005 17:09

real alibi- not guilty
fake or none with a PE or witness - guilty
2 witnesses pointing at same suspect- guilty

This u can always trust!