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Voidz
Voidz

Dec-22-2017 19:15

Hi, i just have a quick question
if you have 2 or more people that know or heard something suspicious, does that mean if both those people say they dont suspect X, mean that X is not the killer?
in other words can there be 2 seperate witness evidences pointing to 2 separate suspects both of which have real alibis?

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Kachenka
Kachenka
Villains' Scourge

Dec-24-2017 10:04

You can safely accuse only when you:
- match a piece of physical evidence to a suspect with a fake or “no alibi”
- find 1 witness evidence against a suspect with a fake or “no alibi”
- find 2 pieces of witness evidence against the same suspect (when you can't determine if the alibi is fake or real)




VoiDzZz
VoiDzZz
Well-Connected

Dec-24-2017 11:26

Yes of course i know all those criteria
im talking about how and when can i eliminate a suspect based on WE
for example 8 suspects, 6 of which say they dont suspect X, means X is definitely not the murderer (since of course X isnt going to accuse himself)
Is there exactly two pieces of WE against the murderer in every case? or can there be more?
Can 2 people with real alibis have WEs pointing to each one of them separately? can 3?
stuff like that

BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

Dec-25-2017 22:27

There will always be 2 WE against the killer. I never had 3 witnesses against the same suspect. So far I only had one suspect with a real alibi per case that had a WE against him/her.

But this is just based on experience. To be on the safe side it's best to accuse if you have 2 witnesses against the same suspect.

VoiDzZz
VoiDzZz
Well-Connected

Dec-26-2017 00:01

Exactly! ive played this game years back, and i dont recall (based on experience of course) that 2 different people with real alibis, each had a WE pointing to them
has anyone come across this scenario?

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Dec-26-2017 07:35

Well, if there were more than 3 WE pointing to a suspect I don't think anyone would get enough answers out of any suspect to ever find out - so there might be. :D

But seriously, the designer of the game says there will be 2 WE pointing to the guilty suspect, so I think we're safe in assuming that is the case.

As far as information from the townies - John Doe doesn't know anything or Jane Doe suspects so-and-so - the only information you can reliably deduce from that is that 1) you don't need to bother to question John Doe because he's not going to tell you diddly; and 2) Jane Doe MIGHT have WE on the killer, but she might also have WE on someone with a real alibi. As with everything in Sleuth this is random. However, if you have to resort to WE, the person the townie says knows something is a good place to start.

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Dec-26-2017 07:50

I guess the line for the Townies isn't "Jane Doe suspects so-and-so" but rather Jane Doe thinks she knows who the killer is.

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Dec-26-2017 07:59

To answer your question specifically:

If the Barber tells you John Doe thinks he knows something and the Fortune Teller tells you Jane Smith thinks she knows something and you ask both of them if they know anything about Sam Anderson and they both say they don't know anything about him, you CANNOT eliminate Sam Anderson. Just because they THINK they know something doesn't mean they know something incriminating about a suspect with a fake alibi. They can also know something incriminating about someone with a REAL alibi.

Kachenka
Kachenka
Villains' Scourge

Dec-26-2017 17:08

I had cases where 2 different real alibi suspects each had 1 WE against them.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could pair all real alibi suspect with 1 WE. In AI cases you don't have that many questions to find out.

VoiDzZz
VoiDzZz
Well-Connected

Dec-27-2017 17:31

Yea Sindy youre right
actually i believe that if 3 people who think they know who the murderer is, all say that they have no reason to suspect jane doe implies jane doe is not the murderer
but 2 people saying no isnt enough because you could have 2 different suspects with 2 real alibis have a WE against each one of them

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