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The Resistance: Order of Socrates Restores Order
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nicnic
nicnic
Battered Shoe

Jun-18-2012 11:08

Once again, turmoil is brewing in the underground crime world of New York. The city is slowly being taken over by La Cosa Nostra, the New York underground mafia. They are recruiting members at record numbers and they can be seen in every night club and bar scaring away customers. And now Joseph Hollis, the High Philosopher of the Order of Socrates, and mayor of New York, has learned of a secret plan by his rival faction, La Cosa Nostra, to go on a crime spree and make off with money, valuables, and ultimate control of various establishments in New York.

Mr. Hollis, being not only concerned with the livelihoods of the patrons of his city, but also with his rival faction gaining too much power, has decided to put together a team of trusted Order of Socrates resistance operatives to foil the plans of La Cosa Nostra. Unfortunately, there has been a lot of attrition lately, and certain people have been going to the highest bidder to offer their services as a spy working from within the Order of Socrates. Joseph is aware of this and he's put together the best possible team he can think of, but unwittingly will be inviting some spies for La Cosa Nostra to his team of operatives.

As long as the loyal Order of Socrates operatives can figure out whom amongst them is untrustworthy, their mission should be a success. But if they trust the wrong people, La Cosa Nostra will succeed and cause severe damage to the New York economy, while gaining enough power to take over the city.

Will the mayor and his team be able to restore order to New York? Or will the underground mafia, take over the city's resources? That's for you to decide in this version of The Resistance: Order of Socrates Restores Order


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M. Lacrimosa
M. Lacrimosa
Thespian

Jul-6-2012 08:58

Ah

Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jul-6-2012 09:40

"So after he cleared Eden.... how could he NOT put him on the mission? That's why I thought that whole argument was weak. After saying Eden was Resistance, and vice versa, Serges and Eden had NO CHOICE other than to put each other on their proposed teams, whether they were spies or not."


Nicnic, if I get the order of things right what you say is simply not true:

Let’s assume Serges and I were spies and Ms Helen was Resistance. There are many ways Serges pull that off.

1. (Case: If Riza is a spy too) He would decide to compromise a spy. Then the game would advance the same as it did before. He’d expose me. Then I would have to accuse him of being a spy. That’s a fact which doesn’t need PM communication. And most likely, you would believe either one of us.

Because you see, if we were both spies, why the hell would we do that? But it would guarantee that one of us would be able to sneak in the following teams.

You believe Serges, you have a spy on your team.
You believe me, you again have a spy on your team.

And Serges would have secured one spy spot in the following teams, because claiming that I was a spy and telling the truth he’d choose 2 people he knew were resistance and relying on the fact that these two didn’t know of each other’s identity, he’d choose one to blame after he sabotaged the first mission.


If we were both spies and we unfortunately had the O.C card at the beginning, I think this would be one of the best plays. Because mor ethan one spies being on the same team is the worst thing that could happen.


Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jul-6-2012 09:41

2. (Case = if Riza’s again Resistance) Or Serges could use it on Riza if she were Resistance. Since R/S = 6/4, there would be a chance that Riza is still Resistance.
Then he’d play it the same way, saying he’d establish confidence with Riza and use the OC card on her in turn.

He’d say Riza was a spy and Riza would say the opposite. Riza would be telling the truth but no one would be able to make sure of that.

Then Serges would pick 2 resistance people except Riza (Ms Helen + somebody else), acting as if he didn’t already know who they were and then if the mission passed, he would sabotage it and blame Riza. (in short this, too, would end up like option 1)

3. Or if he could keep the card (I don’t know if he can, can he?), he would say that he didn’t want to use it just yet because even if he exposed one of us there would stil be a chance that the mission would fail, as the other team member whose identity he didn’t know could turn out a spy.
I think this one would be the weakest argument.


Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jul-6-2012 09:44

more than one spies --> more than one spy's (lol i do that a lot )

nicnic
nicnic
Battered Shoe

Jul-6-2012 12:32

No Eden. He wouldn't have necessarily done that. There is no automatic rule you have to follow in this game. For instance, last game, Illicit and Jason were both spies and Illicit got to look at Jason's card and she told everyone he was Resistance. And she lied about it.

Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jul-6-2012 13:24

Nicnic I only exemplified two ways in which Serges could get away with the OC card.

Since there are no automatic rules, you just cannot say Serges and I would have no other option than picking each other into the teams we proposed, cause I have just given you two examples and they are very likely to work better than getting two spies in a team.

I think I already explained why I think they would work better. But that's not even the case here.

The point is there are many ways, and it's only if we thought we had no other and the rules were automatic that we would "have to" choose one another into our teams.



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