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ctown28
ctown28
Huntsman

Feb-16-2008 18:02

I think its time to revisit the idea of subscription limits for onw person within an agency. It's been the rule that one individual person can only sub up to two people in an agency. After that it's considered an unfair advantage. This was the case a while ago, maybe not so much anymore. I currently have 3 subbed detectives, ctown, Brady Quinn and Bonelady. I have never hid that but also never really offered that information. I really wasn't aware of the "rule" that is really impossible to enforce. What about couples that log in from the same IP address, families, etc.

Anyhow, when this was brought to my attention, I decided to move Brady Quinn out of Dawg Pound Investigations to avoid any conflict before omeone complained. I still think this is an unfair rule. The agencies that have "control" of their detectives because they have gone inactive and the directors know the passwords actually gives a better advantage. They got that control, yet someone else has paid their money for it. IMHO, if I want to pay to sub 3 dets, thats my money paying for it. Either lift that silly rule or ban password sharing. I don't see how you can have it both ways. Now remember, this is to be an open debate, if you are looking for an argument, find a different thread, if you disagree but want to be objective, please post and lets have a respectful debate!

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Brady Quinn
Brady Quinn
Big Winner

Feb-17-2008 22:32

excellent post Bridget, especially the part about Ben and Sunny having enough to do.

I wanted to chime in again as my third detective and try to clarify my Bonelady post about a players 'responsibility' to the community. I ahd posted taht they have none and it seemed to contradict Breits point about it. Having spoken with her since, yes there is a certain 'responsibilty' but is an ethical one. Granted, there are some unscrupulous people out there, possibly even in this game. Where the responsibility lies is respecting others within the community. There are some within the game that I don't get along with, albeit not many.

I'm not looking for accolades or kudos, but one of the purposes of this thread is to point out the respect I have for the community by moving this detective I am posting with now, out of DPI and into another agency since him being there violated a rule that is based on the honor system. I guess what I'm looking for is approval from the community to move Brady back t DPI where he belongs. without majority approval, I will continue to abide by others wishes. Ok I'll get off my soapbox now!

Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Feb-17-2008 23:33

The only person that can give you approval is Admin since it is a rule that they made, and us as a community cannot change that rule technically.

It is ultimately up to Admin to keep the rule or get rid of it.

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Feb-18-2008 01:30

lol ok well... I know this 'rule is only 'honour' based as I quote from Admin:

4) A single player should not be the primary controller of any more than two detectives in a single agency. The only time when we can positively identify individual players is at the subscription purchase. So in practice, this is interpreted to mean that no more than two detectives in a single agency can be subscribed by the same person.

http://noir.playsleuth.com/map/cityhall/post.spy?id=17427

And maybe it needs clarification from Ben when he isn't so busy trying to get SoM off the ground...

But, I would think until he says otherwise that a groundswell of public popular opinion does not actually constitute a rule change.

*It may very well instigate one*, and more power to the people if that's the case, but until that time I wouldn't be too hasty.

ctown28
ctown28
Huntsman

Feb-18-2008 02:40

Fair enough, Using your word "technically" it is not a rule, if it was a "technical rule" the IP I used would not have allowed me to put the detective in that agency. It seems to be an "rule" that Admin presented and got the community to agree on. I already have "approval" from Admin to keep all three as the initail problem has died down,

The rule is basically based on the honor sytem, Admin doesnt have time to check and see whos IP is logged into what each and everyday. This is no different thna the Arch Villain league where its an unwritten rule not to play sidekick cases as thats an advantage, but some still do.

I would like to think that I have done the honorable thing and asked the communities blessing, I already have Admins

ctown28
ctown28
Huntsman

Feb-18-2008 02:58

I actually should clarify, I contacted Admin about it and after a short debate he didn't think it would be a problem. I still moved one of them, Iwant to move him back, I already have admins approval, I want the communities.


Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Feb-18-2008 04:41

lol. This is like one of those detective novels where you get all the missing pieces of the puzzle in the final chapter, rather than at the start where everything would have made oh so much more sense... but then like all good mysteries it wouldn't have been half as good a story.

Why didn't you just say, OK I've talked to Ben and he says that having 3 subs in my Agency is cool by him, so why don't we aren't you all doing it?

You made a lot of unnecessary 'rage against the machine' statements at the beginning, based in the surety of already having the machine on side. :s

So, probably what's more interesting to everyone now, and since you've made the statement, is:

IS this in fact a firm and fast rule change or not for the whole Sleuth Community?

Ben?

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Feb-18-2008 04:42

PS Sorry Ben :)

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Feb-18-2008 04:52

My feeling is that the silent majority on Sleuth could care less about this issue; there are just a few detectives out there who just HAVE to make it an issue, and of course, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. It's not majority rule, it's whoever whines the loudest.

That's just my opinion.

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Feb-18-2008 04:57

And let me just state that I only have two detectives and that's all I have time for or can afford, so I am within the "Honor Code" here and have no desire to have anymore than is allowed, so I have no personal agenda in stating my opinions here. These are just my opinions and observations.

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Feb-18-2008 05:20

ctown:

Let me ask you this: Did you pay your subscription to Sleuth or to the community at large? The only person who should be able to dictate to you what you can or cannot do with your detectives is the person you paid your subscription to.

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