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Dec-8-2007 05:55

Hi there,

I don't know if I'm spoiling the AVH process, but I was wondering if a clue along the lines of ".... is NOT the Waitress" or the clues like "southof detective shop" when the shop is already high up on the map are used only as 'tie' breakers'?

i.e. Everytime I've gotten one of those clues, its been the other townsperson who shares the same set of traits (i.e. north, east, female, river - "not the waitress" would have been the tiebreaker).

I'm thinking that the game generates that hint only when necessary (like it should be the final hint to help you distinguish), but if you get it as a first clue, then can you use it to figure out your cospirator immediately?

To any mods / admins, feel free to edit my post if it contains too much information pertaining to AVH hunts.

Thanks to any repliers in advance!

Dec-8-2007 15:59

Some interesting discussion here...

My original meaning for clarifying this up was that... as an example if in NYC you get "not the waitress" as your first hint, does it ALWAYS mean that you are given that distinguish between either the WAITRESS / MUSIC TEACHER pair or the WAITRESS / BUTCHER pair - so i.e if you get SOUTH of 42nd and the 'not the waitress' clue you can determine its the BUTCHER without any other clues?

Thanks for all the input so far everybody!

Dec-8-2007 16:07

As not to give away any spoilers, PM sent!

Mar-24-2008 11:58

I also have a question on these same lines:

In Delhi (to close out my avh), My first clue in is "NOT the Holy Man". Can anyone confirm this means the Missionary EVERY time? I would love to make it home to London with my remaining cases if so so I don't spend the whole day tomorrow travelling to London to drop off my gear and then back to Shangri-La to p/u my reward.

Thanks!

Mar-24-2008 13:40

No, I can't confirm that, cause it ain't always him. Sorry. :-/

Mar-24-2008 16:34

^ agrees. In this instance you can't rely on that 'not the...' clue singling out someone for you.

Mar-25-2008 01:20

The posibility to be the Missionary is exactly 95%. Normally 95% is statistically significant.
It is up to you to take the risk but remember that a failed VH will always be in your CV

Mar-25-2008 01:41

How, exactly, you came up with that statistic, I'm somewhat confused about, but whatever. There are several possibilities that can have that clue, the Missionary being only one of them.

Mar-25-2008 10:03

Scenario 1
The ‘is not the holy man’ info is given because it is substituting a coordination that can’t be used. This scenario (mathematically) is leading (much space is needed for explanation and may be boring for those who are not interested) 100% to the Missionary.
Scenario 2
The ‘is not the holy man’ info is given because it is substituting a coordination that can be used but it is not given. This scenario (mathematically) is leading 50% to the Missionary and 50% to the Bartender.
Scenario 3
The ‘is not the holy man’ info is given as an Add on info that is not actually needed! Unfortunately this is really a bad scenario which can lead to anybody else

Mathematically a projection of all scenarios will give.
Missionary 95%
Bartender 2%
Anybody else less than 0.5%

Mar-25-2008 13:31

I'm sorry, Smile, but your math is still off.

Mar-25-2008 14:45

I agree with Breit, you are over analyzing things here. Look at it this way, If you flip a coin 9 times and it comes up heads every time, what are the chances it will come up heads when you flip it the tenth time? The answer of course is 50%. Now word the question differently and the answer will change, "If you flip a coin 10 times what are the chances it will come up heads everytime?"

My apologies for making anybodys head hurt!

*hands Breit jumbo size bottle of tylenol*