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Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-16-2007 00:40

I know it's lame to ask for help, but I've tried Dead Before Dessert about 6 times now. I have sufficient skill to ask every character/shop an unlimited number of questions, but no matter what I do, I can't get motives for three of the characters. I've asked every single question available. Do I need a special skill? Is this bugged? Are there any characters whose motives you never determine?

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Armitage Shanks
Armitage Shanks

Aug-16-2007 02:03

I haven't tried out Dead Before Dessert yet, but I got stuck on another scripted mystery some time ago. What I missed was to read really carefully the narrative text (ie intro, crime scene and so on) and take notes on the events they described. Try that and you might find something of use. Sometimes the normal game mechanics are over ruled by those texts which is really really important to remember.

Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-16-2007 03:57

Yeah, that makes sense. The thing is, I don't have an actions left. At all. Nobody clammed up or refused to answer questions - there just aren't any questions to ask. I know who all the pieces of evidence belong to. I've asked every townsperson all of the available questions and nobody clammed up. I'm 90% sure I know who committed the crime, but I can't accuse them unless I have a motive.

It all makes me wonder if it's a) bugged or b) you need some extraneous skill to magically detect a motive. I've done scripted mysteries before and neglected to ask the right questions/clammed up on, but this is completely different because I can ask everything possible without a problem.

Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Aug-16-2007 05:49

Can't quiet remember DBD but have you got research? Some SM's require that.

Failing that PM the author or check the Sleuth News website for any walk throughs.

Ginny Weasley
Ginny Weasley

Aug-16-2007 05:52

I don't - I was told basic PE skills like hair analysis were more imminently needed. It's only a "hard" mystery, though, so I'm surprised I'd need research. Do you happen to know the Sleuth News URL?

Armitage Shanks
Armitage Shanks

Aug-16-2007 06:55

Don't you get to use research even if you don't have it when doing scripted mysteries?

Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Aug-16-2007 12:19

When you write an SM you can choose to set it so you need research as a skill or not. Like I say I cant remember about this one.

Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Aug-16-2007 12:21

And if you are still stuck PM AmazingAmanda253 the author. She's great and will no doubt be willing to help out.


There's no guide for this SM at Sleuth news yet but the link is:

http://www.sleuthtips.com/



Breitkat
Breitkat
Pinball Amateur

Aug-17-2007 14:03

Most Scripted Mysteries (at least up until now) have not required you to HAVE the research skill in order to be able to USE it (rather big change from the random mysteries ;-). You might try going to the Hall of Records and seeing if there's anything there, then checking all your suspects and townies again. If you don't have people clammed on you, then you're not going to the right person at the right time somewhere down the line, because there should be something for you to find at either a suspect or a townsperson. Also, make sure you read the blurbs at the townies carefully. Their usual hint and favor things may have changed on you.

Good luck!!

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Aug-17-2007 22:39

Yeah the 'default' setting for Research in SM's is 'skill not needed'. I haven't seen many people change that, as it's used as a natural plot kicker-onerer. I have had a peek at AA's Mystery's inards, and it would probably we worth checking Research.

Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Aug-18-2007 00:17

Ah great SS you just ruined my breakfast... inards... hrmph....

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