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# of dectives in an agency
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R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-11-2006 15:36

On other threads the discussion about how many cases you can turn in is happening.

The idea that there is a rule that you can only have 2 detectives in an agency seems to be a false one to me.

If you can access every detective in the agency because you have their password then do you control all of them?




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Odietrying
Odietrying
Old Shoe

Nov-16-2006 07:45

Roamie, I would just like to address your concerns.

I have never intended to take a moral high ground, nor give off a holier than thou attitude. I am simply suggesting that people stop this useless bickering. The sleuth community has been split in two over this non-issue. I just want the drama to end. So there is no need to respond to a message of peace with more drama.

I do agree that threatening PM's are wrong. I hope you can just ignore them.

A message to everyone:
These problems stem from everyone not realizing that roamie is entitled to his opinion as much as I am entitled to mine and you are entitled to yours.

And no I am not Ben in disguise, I am just a person not taking any sides, trying to get people to stop hating each other. I don't see a flaw in that goal.

AndreaX
AndreaX
Thespian

Nov-16-2006 07:55

While the goal IS worthwhile, Odie, sometimes people just need to air out some grievances. It might be true that the argument got heated, but it is also true that it has been a long time coming. I love Sleuth and the people in it, but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with everyone just to keep things peaceful.

If the next bit gets my post deleted, so be it, but I feel the need to say this:

I will not knock it off unless I hear from a mod or admin and I have no problem standing by my comments. In other words, whatever the OUTCOME is, I can take it.

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Nov-16-2006 07:57

Let people say what they want. DAMN. There is obviously tension around here. Lets have it out. The number one detective and agency felt the need to retire his agent. Do you think someone who worked that hard would make that decision lightly? No, there are problems here in Sleuthville. Things might get heated before they cool down but maybe that is what everyone needs.
If you are too delicate to read a post with some tension, dont read it. Until I received a PM from Chron saying he was retiring because of the BS on the message boards, I NEVER read or participated in them. But when my friend felt he needed to retire about it, I couldnt see sitting back and keeping quiet. Things need to change around here.

Odietrying
Odietrying
Old Shoe

Nov-16-2006 09:41

I respect both your opinions. I don't agree with them. I respect them. There's a difference.

I just don't think that a game like this is worth getting this excited over, and I'm not sure what you (roamie) mean about how things need to change. No changes can change what happened, but we can learn from it anyway.

Also (AndreaX), I think the mods and admin are staying out of this completely, and wisely so. There is just no reason for them to be involved and be labeled as being either a known sympathizer or a trusted collaborator.

I look forward to the end.

Beef Flaps
Beef Flaps
Lucky Stiff

Nov-16-2006 10:02

The fact that this is even a discussion is funny. Seriously, do high scores really even matter? Who cares. It's a game. I just laugh when I see some of the ridiculous scores some people have (the high hundred thousands or millions), with few city contacts and being only a few days old. You know what they are doing. It doesn't effect me directly...all it does is show me people have this need "to be on top" in a make-believe world, and have way to much time on their hands to sit at their computer. WHO CARES?

sunny
sunny
Lady of Shadows

Nov-16-2006 10:19

Get back to the topic of this thread. I will say, again, if you have a problem with another detective then have it out with that detective in private.

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Nov-16-2006 10:22

Beef Flaps, some people dont care about the high scores list and that is fine. Those of us that have millions of exp points just have them because we play all our cases everday. The points start to add up quick. It doesnt mean we are doing anything unethical. Sometimes if we are trying to get a particular favor, item or maybe a faction skill we might use some other detectives cases if they have given them away but thats about it. Please dont judge people by their experience points. Everyone plays this game differently.

I spend alot of time on my computer through work and I solialize though IMs with others in my agency. That doesnt mean I have too much time on my hands, it means this is what I choose to do with my time.

R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-16-2006 10:44

As Sunny asked to bring this back onto the topic I started with.

What defines "controling a detective"?

The issue is not what you do with that control but at what point is a player in control of a detective? To open hunts, do favors, what ever you choose to do with that control.

Is it when your IP address is the one that loggs into that detective 51% of the time in the past 30 days?

Is it that you can exert final say over a detective?

If that is the case than anyone who has the detectives PW is in control. It only takes a moment to get three false accusations.

What do you think of when you say someone is "in control" of a detective?

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Nov-16-2006 11:15

I think that someone "CONTROLS" a detective when they are the ones who sign the detective up and they pay for the subscription.

If a person's subscription runs out and they do not renew it, then their detective is probably controlled by the agency until that person returns to the game. Some unsubbed/unplayed detectives may be moved to an agency that isnt really active just so they have a home in case they decide to return. I dont think someone popping in and using them for some PE verification once in awhile is "CONTROLLING" that detective.

We have had some unsubbed, unplayed detectives in our agency recently. In one case we had not heard from the person for about 6 months, used the detective for PE and once we had another active agent with the same contact, moved her out of the agency. The other case, we have someone with a serious heath issue that was a regular player and we are very fearful that the worse might have happened as her detectives became unsubbed and she has not checked back in. We moved her out of the agency and will let her in if she comes back. We used these detectives for PE verification only, not for hunts or anything else and I do not feel that we "Controlled" them. Their original owners are still the people who should control them.

And I respectfully ask, Why is this a topic for discussion? Shouldnt this be an agency policy on how they want to handle AWOL players?

Solve A Lot2
Solve A Lot2
Assistant Librarian

Nov-16-2006 11:59

I agree with Roamie.
Detectives belong to/ are controlled by the person who created them and paid for their subscription. If the owner decides their detective is being abused, they can come in and change the password.

In our agency, we use each other's contacts for PE or WE, and for treasure hunt favors. Our policy is only directors have access to passwords, no detective will get an FA, their money will be untouched. When and if they return, their detective will be the same or better than when they stopped playing.
Every agency has their own set of policies. These are ours, right or wrong - they work for us.

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