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Solve A Lot2
Solve A Lot2
Assistant Librarian

Sep-3-2006 20:18

It seems to me that lately there have been new agents joining agencies to steal their equipment.

Is there a way to allow agents to "borrow" agency equipment, but at the time that they quit, the equipment is returned to the owning agency? The only equipment they can take is the one the came with.

I play another rpg, they are able to do this there. If the agency wants to give the member equipment, they simply unclick the "agency item" button. This is done by a director of the team.

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BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

Sep-3-2006 20:31

:) I know for sure those options are possible from a technical point of view. We had indepth changes lately but it would be worthwile to consider this, that way con artists won't be able to play their little games anymore.

It's just too easy for everyone to create doubles and too hard for us to judge right away if we're dealing with a serious candidate or not. But retrieving agency stuff anytime will help us get rid of so many of these futile scams once and for all.

Laura_Holt
Laura_Holt
Well-Connected

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cfm
cfm
Nomad

Sep-3-2006 20:44

I know I'm gonna take a lot of flack for this, especially by the really kind and sweet agencies that want to help everyone from day one.

There are already options to help lessen the risk, the rookie status and the seperate divisions of the locker are all good tools.

However, some agencies choose not to use these tools for one reason or another, usually because they are trying to be nice.

Part of what makes this community what it is that we are expected to be responsible for our own actions. This includes the thiefs, and those that didn't use all the tools at their disposal to prevent the theft.

But this also means that we are allowed to EARN our rewards, instead of having them handed to us. I think this priceless.

((There. Now you can yell at the right me.)) :)

R Anstett
R Anstett

Sep-3-2006 20:46

I think that we do have the right tools, and each agency and director has to go with their gut sometimes on what to do with new people.

I do think that if we openly talk about these problem people and share with each other when someone does violate our trust that it will strengthen the community and help all of us understand the dynamics that much better.

Solve A Lot2
Solve A Lot2
Assistant Librarian

Sep-3-2006 20:56

Well maybe we can pay extra for this feature, in the HQ property. We already have a clerk in place to monitor safe & equipment transactions. So, a feature can be included that you can "pay" someone to control the equipment. This will also help when a detective gets retired. The agency will not be out the equipment.

Those Agencies that wish to use their "gut" can do so. Those of us who would rather not deal with that, will pay a higher HQ rent for the service.

calalta
calalta
Well-Connected

Sep-3-2006 20:59

I know I am a tad old school here, but i think that issues like this are best dealt with in house if at all possible. Sometimes it is a simple misunderstanding and we end up having peoples names trashed only to find out later on that it was not them.

Also with the rash of new agencies popping up all over the place how do we decide what happens when two directors of a new agency disagree and then end up fighting on the boards over equipment and money as has been done in the past.

To me isues like this have always been in house issues, not the domain of public boards. I still think that way i guess and find that it is equally effective to warn people via pm, from director to director. Also using common sense is always good as well, for example if someone wants to join your agency and have been in 3 different ones n a week, there might be a good reason to say no to them, using the caution that CFM talked about above.

calalta
calalta
Well-Connected

Sep-3-2006 21:04

Also, one possibility of dealing with issues like this would be to put up a directors lounge/board where agency directors could talk to one another without making a big issue out of things on the public boards.

BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

Sep-3-2006 21:07

It's just for the sake of avoiding public fights that a retrieve gear option could prove itself useful. I don't see a problem why agencies can't get back waht belonged to them in the first place. So far the notification system seems to be operational but it would save us all a heck lot of typing messages if a simple security option could prevent that newcomers walk away with stuff.

History proved that some will never learn and for some reason will always take out of place satisfaction in ripping off others. I fear that's also a part of community dynamics.

Solve A Lot2
Solve A Lot2
Assistant Librarian

Sep-3-2006 21:09

First of all, let me state that no one has stolen equipment from my agency. We have been fortunate to have serious, honest members.

My reason for suggesting an equipment tracking system is precisely to eliminate the misunderstandings, battles, public debates, etc.
If the equipment was returned to the agency automatically upon someone quitting or getting retired, there would be no reason to post threads, name trash or debate.


Autumnsprings
Autumnsprings
Con Artist

Sep-3-2006 21:09

Well, Kris just basically said what I was going to, but I will elaborate on my idea. To me, it seems like it would be a good idea to have a 'directors only' board, similar to the mods board. You can only post and view if you have director status. On this thread we would post any warnings about a given player without making that player defensive. I know there is a network through which PMs are sent, but I dont think they are sent to smaller agencies, which would be more deeply hurt by this type of betrayal. This board would reach directors of ALL agencies (assuming they read it of course). I do agree that trying to keep these things in house is a good idea, but I also believe that directors have a right to know about theiving detectives before having to learn it the hard way.

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