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DaRu
DaRu
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Jun-13-2005 14:28

Oh the mystery of "The King of Pop!" The verdict is in & will be revealed at 4PM. Don't you know that Michael is nerveous, because his life is hanging in the balance. I know that I'm nerveous and it has nothing to do with me, except I've admired his talents, just not his life-style. I started this thread, thinking that some would like to share their feelings here about it. Oh well, the world shall soon know. As Texan just shared, this could be Micheal final walk in freedom, as he walks into the courthouse holding him umbrella. One thing about it, there won't be an umbrella needed in prison...ouch.

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ichiban
ichiban
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Jun-17-2005 20:37

*throwing Marcus an open umbrella* I must say I think John Hale is most likely right but like skyler said only what you can "prove" not what you know. *motioning to Marcus to duck* Look at O.J. seemed guilty but how many times were they stabbed??But who else could have or would have done it right??I do know that he owed tons to some mafia type gangsters. What would they have to gain??Besides like the man said earlier what can you prove?? In America the legal system is abused I mean that the premium has been put on winning or not losing and screw being honest or telling the truth. I don't mean to bash or blame people but lawyers who look at it as they have to defend their client even when they are sure client is guilty they should be obligated to the law and pursuit of truth not winning!!Unless they are defending me of course!@!

DaRu
DaRu
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Jun-17-2005 23:02

LoL....me too, on that last part.

jstkdn
jstkdn
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Jun-18-2005 03:31

I think that Ichiban is hitting the reason here, why I decided to no longer practice law. I could play the law game well. But I personally had issues with the difference between law, and justice. Quite often, though law is served, justice is not.

If in the MJ trial justice was served. I really don't know. I don't know anything about the evidence. I have heard a lot of people say, that the testimony of the victims was shotty at best. They kept changing their story. When this happens someone should not be convicted. However, this could still mean justice is in part not served. As the problem is, victims often give shotty testimony. Due to trauma, mixing up the account, memory, the time between them being victimized and the trial, and the pressure of the court room and a defense lawyer.

A defense lawyer, if he plays the game well. Can confuse a witness so much, that their testimony ends up being shotty. The love of that game, gave me some personal issues in terms of looking at myself in the mirror.

So, I became corporate senior management instead. I quite disillusioned now. As it is also a dirty world. And again I find myself in a place, where being a good manager, doesn't mean being a good person. I again, have to make some decisions, and give up a good pay check. Lets be honest, I like to keep my house. :(

jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Jun-18-2005 09:37

Question, was any evidence produced in terms of the physical signs of them being mollested? Without getting graphical here, you know what I mean.

Was there ever a "sane" and "trustworthy" adult witness there that saw something happen?

In other words, has he been caught with his pants down?

Just curious. I'd really like to know if he is guilty or not.

nippo1
nippo1

Jun-18-2005 21:19

Guilty or not, Michael the kids and God are the only people who really know the truth. So sooner or later his going have to pay up any ways, and thats if he did it, if not then hes free from man or heavens justice as it is.

Blaise Joshua
Blaise Joshua

Jun-19-2005 03:56

Jstkdn: From my understanding (and I didn't follow the trial particularly closely), there was no physical evidence at all of sexual abuse. All of the evidential was witness evidence and circumstantial.

I'm open to correction on this.

Blaise Joshua
Blaise Joshua

Jun-19-2005 05:46

I had the displeasure of recently attending a sexual abuse trial through work and, like Jstkdn said, the defense barrister did a very good job of confusing the alleged victim. Any slight discrepency in testimony or earlier statements was seized upon - at one point over an apparent confusion about whether or not a light was on during a particular incident.

It is very disturbing to witness such cross-examination, and the trial was repeatedly delayed by the alleged victim breaking down. It was a similar case, though, in which there was no physical evidence as the alleged abuse took place years before. It basically came down to who the jury believed.

jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Jun-19-2005 05:59

Yup, particularly in school I attended a lot of trials. One thing that always made my eyes roll, was the ever so popular defense lawyer words used in pretty much every trial "My client had such a rough childhood."

Mugsy Blue
Mugsy Blue

Jun-19-2005 07:42

Personally...I feel that a grown man that doesn't see anything wrong with sleeping with boys/houseguest has some questionable psychological issues. To me it doesn't matter what was proven or disproven, it's the mindset of the person that can't see that this is not appropiate behavior. For Jackson to not have seen that this is a serious issue whether it was brought out into the open or not raises some serious questions with me. If Jackson has had a traumatic childhood then he needs to seek therapy, not the comfort of him sharing his bed with a child.

ichiban
ichiban
Well-Connected

Jun-19-2005 11:06

Don't take this wrong Mugsy but from the looks you must be a fan and to have to admit he has problems shows your stability

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