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Rabbit Doubt: Extra Furry Edition
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The Announcer
The Announcer

Aug-21-2017 12:37

Hello all! The newest version of Rabbit Doubt can be found below:

https://sites.google.com/site/thevidocqsociety/Home/rabbit-doubt-extra-furry-edition

If anyone who wasn't in the last game (or was and hasn't yet PM'ed me about joining) wants to play, please post in this thread. I'll leave signups open until 21:00 server time tonight.

If at any time you have questions regarding gameplay, please PM me and I'll try to get back to you as soon as possible.

Spots have been reserved for Sleuth Sindy, shell marple, Sal Iva, LaSorella, Tyranomaster3, miss snopes, Yeti Face, and Zara Bande.

The game will begin at 7:00 server time tomorrow, and all roles will be distributed by then.

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Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Aug-30-2017 14:57

I'm sorry I suspected you as well, Kathryn. And I'm very happy for you that you weren't a wolf, because I think you would have been miserable. :)

Kathryn Rose
Kathryn Rose

Aug-30-2017 15:14

:)))

Tyranomaster3
Tyranomaster3
Bloodhound

Aug-30-2017 18:04

Thanks for your feedback, Kathryn and sorry for the inconvenience of the playing time. We didn't recognize it before. We will try to fix it in the next game. If you have any suggestion about it, we very appreciate it.

About the game play, it's really a challenge to figure out who is who. That's why this game named Rabbit Doubt. But I think it's quite fair for both sides since the rabbits dominates about the quantity while the wolves have advantage about the allegiance. Actually, we made the game simpler to play since we added some special powers into this game whereas the basic game does not have any. We will see if we can do anything to make it better while still keeping the balance for both sides. We suggest that you should try to talk to people in the game more. The principle this game based on is that people can easily tell a lie but it's very difficult to protect a lie by keep lying like a quote "you can't hide an eel in a sack". So the main strategy is to keep talking. Sorry if I spoiled the game :D

And, I really appreciate your invitation to RLJ. Hope that we can have him in our next games.

Kathryn Rose
Kathryn Rose

Aug-31-2017 02:01

Thank you Tyrano and Riza for all the hard work you've put into this game :))

From the very beginning I felt like everyone (including me) was very uncomfortable with the idea of hanging anyone in the game based on suspicion only and without any kind of proof, and I think that makes it considerably difficult for the rabbits to win. The only rabbit with helpful data in the game is the SS and even then they can get killed right away or they can fail to sniff out the deceiver. I felt also that the Resistance (which is also a game based on figuring out who everyone is by what they say) had at least some sort of statistical, mathematical element to it (which is a limited number of people going on missions that get sabotaged or not). Maybe it would be helpful for the bunnies to have cards distributed to them such as in the Resistance? I know from personal experience that the more I spoke up in the game, the more suspicious I became to others (as shell marple pointed out). I think we were also suspicious of you tyro at the very beginning because you said so much :) the two that were the least suspicious in the game were zara and miss snopes because they spoke least. So I don't really feel that speaking a lot in the game is very beneficial. That being said I cannot imagine all the work that has to go into organizing a game like this one and the difficulty of balancing everything out to make it fair on all sides so thank you for that :)

- Kathy

Sleuth Sindy
Sleuth Sindy
Pinball Wizard

Aug-31-2017 02:03

I enjoyed the game. I don't enjoy the part where people get killed off - especially right off the bat. It's very anticlimactic for someone who signed up for a game to get offed immediately. I realize that's just the nature of the beast, but it's my least favorite part of the game. I think the most challenging part of this game is the fact that as a bunny you want to keep your "power" (if you have one) hidden so the wolves don't target you - although of course, you can still get offed just by random selection. So, my point is, you can have good bunnies and bad bunnies lying for different reasons, and you have to figure out not only who is lying, but *why* they are lying.

Zara Bande
Zara Bande
Bounty Hunter

Aug-31-2017 04:32

Hi Kathryn : ) I was intrigued by your comment that miss snopes and I spoke least in the game. It wasn't my impression at all. I just took a quick flick back through the pages and - while it's true that we didn't make zillions of posts - we posted regularly. After my initial 'hello' post on 22nd August, I posted twice on 23rd and 24th, three times on 25th, 4 times each on both 26th and 27th. It was game over on 28th when I made my final post. More than that I'd say miss snopes posts were pretty much all quite analytical and relevant to the game. I think that mine were too.

I know there are players who like to ham it up, poke fun at Yeti, make lots of posts, etc. The pantomime of it all is entertaining : ) But it's not particularly relevant to the game outcome.

So, overall, I have to disagree that it's "silent" players who are most successful in Rabbit Doubt. I'd actually say that - as with The Resistance - it's the silent players who attract most suspicion. And suspicion was directed in RD at LaSorella, yourself and RLJ - in large part because of the infrequency of posts as the game progressed.

Yes the game could perhaps be improved - most things can - but I feel it's been well thought out and organised by Ty and Riza. I also like that it's a kind of counterbalance to The Resistance. In the latter the spies generally have a hard time winning. I think a question in the most recent Trivia Quiz gave it as something like only 3 wins for the spies out of 11 games - or something like that. But we'll see as time goes on and we play more RD games.

It was a pleasure playing with you, and with everyone. Kathryn, I hope that next time you get to see the game from the PoV of a wolf :D

Kathryn Rose
Kathryn Rose

Aug-31-2017 05:03

Great to read everyone's thoughts and opinions on the game :)

I would say RD and Resistance are very competitive, cutthroat games, and I would be interested in playing something more relaxed now, or that is more focused upon teamwork than individual work. Playing Rabbit Doubt gave me the chance to realize how talented all the players are and also that we all have quite unique ways of problem solving. So I would be very excited to see all that talent brought together toward a common goal.

Tyranomaster3
Tyranomaster3
Bloodhound

Aug-31-2017 09:58

I understand your thought, Kath and Sindy. Actually, this kind of game origined from a Professor of psychology as a practice for his students. Through the game, they understand how people can react with the events life brings to them, how to read people's thought,etc. So this kind of game is about interview and reading mind. While, at resistance, the main gameplay is about, right as Kath said, statistic and mathematics. Each of them has their own way to play. And I suggest that while playing RD, you should enjoy those feeling of reading people's mind. Do not worry much about being killed. You will see its interest then. I also talked to Riza about your guilty feeling of hanging an innocent people. I also feel the same. It's normal feeling of good people. Next time we will try to make things less serious by giving a place for excluded people (I prefer this word than dead) to discuss. So you guys can feel it less guilty. Just think that it's to exclude somebody to narrow down the suspects. They are not dead, they are just detained or sth like that. :D

Tyranomaster3
Tyranomaster3
Bloodhound

Aug-31-2017 10:04

And the idea of power cards is very interesting, Kath. Thanks for it. I think we can apply that idea to the game also.

Kathryn Rose
Kathryn Rose

Sep-1-2017 12:24

Great stuff. Thanks Tyrano and Riza! :)

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