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Jun-19-2012 20:57

People of Sleuthville, lend me your ears!
I call out now to all you tomb-raiders and treasure seekers! To those who love the thrill of a good treasure hunt!

In the spirit of friendly competition i propose a challenge.
This challenge will require 10 adventurous detectives to be split onto 2 Teams, each team consisting of 5 members, in 2 newly made Agencies of my own making in NY.

These two agencies will compete against each other in Treasure Hunts.
The first team to get their agency to 7,000 Fame wins:

$200,000 Prize to be split among the team evenly.
(Working out to $40,000 a piece for each teammate...not too shabby huh?)
Also each team after the contest ends will vote amongst themselves on who alone among their team was MVP (someone who went above and beyond, did a really excellent job, etc) The MVP's from Both teams will win a 3 month gift subscription from me personally.
You also win bragging rights and honor for your home agencies on being an awesome treasure hunter.
Whether your team chooses single or multi-city hunt strategy is entirely up to you.

Obviously this competition will run for a while, (I'm venturing a guess at anywhere between 2 weeks to a month depending on how luck smiles on you or how good you and your teammates are).

It goes without saying that you would be required to resign temporarily from whatever agency you are currently in to join my competing agencies for the contest. You are allowed to enter an alternate detective if you wish if you're too attached to have your main detective leave your agency, and the only rules are:

1) Absolutely NO Password Sharing.
2) Only one entry per contestant
3) Have fun.

I want to know who among you treasure hunters really has what it takes to come together and co-ordinate as a team to truly be the best.

(Cont'd)

Jul-17-2012 10:18

Beefy I love ya. Please don't take this as a personal affront, but I'm starting to think you're not kidding about this so let me clarify.

In this thread, when the contest was being planned, it was decided by a consensus that since there's no way to prevent agencies from hunting, it would be a good "chaos" factor getting in the way of either agency just hunting by itself. So when everyone entered the contest, it was with full disclosure that that was something no one could control.

Further, when we left SMRT, several of us posted on the message board that anyone was welcome to hunt while we were gone, even if it would be hard with half the agency missing.

Now, specifically to THIS case, I want to be clear. Not that there needs to be an excuse, because Al-Q and the 10-11 other detectives besides Ms Helen/Sleuthbot have EVERY RIGHT to hunt in any treasure hunt they feel like, same as any other agency does, but this hunt was opened by Al Q before it was opened by the Raiders. The fact that you lost the hunt to them isn't because of shady business, or because we're trying to screw you guys over, but because THEY STARTED AND FINISHED THE HUNT BEFORE YOU.

The fact that 90% of the people playing in this competition are teammates and friends I would think would prevent this kind of BS from being spread. Apparently I would be wrong.

I welcome ANY and ALL agencies to go up against the Crusaders in any of our hunts, and when you win, we'll be pissed that we lost but not because we're accusing anyone of bad behavior, cheating or anything related. But because we got beat by an agency who got the favors they needed to win the hunt before we did.

Sheesh.

Jul-17-2012 10:26

It's all in good fun Biggie.

Or is that your guilt coming through? What colour are your hands right now?

Jul-17-2012 10:27

I can't see my hands through all the hair and you know it :p

Next time put a winky face or something so we all know you're kidding!

Jul-17-2012 11:36

Biggie.

First of all, you are taking it more seriously than anyone else on this board. You're definitely taking it more seriously than me who told you in barchat that I knew you'd play legitimately dirty. You know I lolled and all which I suppose wasn't enough for you to let it die down? I mean you have had a conversation with me in there only to post this today as a response to Beef?

I would see your point if I thought winning a contest in Sleuth made us Einsteins or something.

But it won't, see? So you can't go around saying you're being accused of bad behavior when all you did was rock hard.

Obviously we have different views of this, which is something you probably cannot appreciate. So what if any of us differs about that? Do we have to be kidding all the time? I really don't get this.

I don't know what makes you guys' having talked about it earlier on the thread a consensus, I don't care to know either. It's not even important. I mean the bit about the consensus is not why I am posting this. It's your assumption that people care about a damn game so much that all they could accuse you of things because they are losing the game.

Please don't say it's ok if we're kidding after saying all that serious stuff on board.

And fyi, if any of us considered that a strategy, we'd be doing favors using our alts in Delhi and elsewhere.

So please have respect for people when they beg to differ.

Jul-17-2012 11:43

Eden,

Beef is my friend and teammate. I mistook his joking for seriousness. And a friend of mine was legitimately hurt because of it. When he explained he was joking, I believed him.

It WOULD be ok if you were kidding. You weren't kidding about it in chat the other day and I let it go. The only time I get really mad about something anymore is when someone is hurt by what people are posting. And I did. So if you have a problem with me doing that, sorry. It is what it is.

Jul-17-2012 12:06

Biggie I'm not kidding about how I see it. I have the right not to. And it's totally OK. Just as it is totally OK for you to have different thoughts about it.

Since these are just opinions, it'd still be fun if you considered it as part of the trash talk going on. [I was definitely kidding in barchat the first time btw and luckily Andi's trash talk was what followed :). ]

That's why I said you have taken it too seriously. Because the way you choose to play a game, and how person X sees it, tells nothing about your RL personality. That given, when you said people accused you because you're good, you are actually passing judgments about their personalities. You are assuming you know them well enolugh to do that.

Now that could have hurt me, if I had doubts about who I am, or if I thought you meant to hurt me or person X, etc. So why did I post this stuff here?

Seriously, I just want to say that we can have fun without making assumptions.

Jul-17-2012 12:13

I DO know a lot of people in this game well enough to know what they mean when they say it.

What assumptions am I making? I know someone was hurt by the accusation, and you're saying its wrong, in your opinion, and I'm saying its not wrong. By the rules established for this contest, its not wrong. That is a fact, not an opinion. If you didnt agree with the rules, then fine. But do you have to complain about it? You knew them going into it.

Jul-17-2012 12:28

Jason's gonna' hit me, but maybe we should switch up the team membership on week two. *grins and runs away*

Jul-17-2012 12:35

Biggie. I am not even talking about the game. And I know what facts it involved when I said it was legitimate. I don't know how else I could say that.

You say that someone was hurt because of some post that says what agency X did was wrong, bad whatever. That gave you the right to get mad, in your words.

Talk about an agency, and someone gets hurt by how others view certain styles of game playing?

Well what happens when you actually imply that people can do abhorrent stuff only to win a game? Like saying that people just went boohoo and started accusing you -which is not true by the way- because you are good etc?

You weren't so fine with it when I said I just disagreed with you. It was you who asked the question. It was you who said "well you started a hunt in Delhi?" You are the one who said "well what do you expect, do you expect people to quit an ongoing hunt just because you're in a contest?", which was something that I never said. Please do not forget that.

And complain about it? All I did was answer your question. In barchat. What have you been doing on the board? You can get mad, when you talk you never complain... And you know every one too well. Alright.

Jul-17-2012 12:48

Eden I can't even begin to understand what you're talking about right now. Let me try point by point and maybe by the end it'll make sense to me.

1. If we're not talking about the game, what are we talking about?

2. Someone's feelings were hurt because of the implication that her agency was intentionally trying to block the Raiders from winning a hunt by winning a hunt that they were already in prior to the Raiders joining it. I did get angry about that, because she's my friend and an honest player who brings a lot to the game and the community (as does everyone in Al Q) and I don't think its right for people to imply her or her agencymates are doing anything wrong.

3. If by "style of gameplaying" you mean "winning a hunt" (which your agency does a lot of as well), then yeah if you view it as bad, it doesnt make much sense does it?

4. Who is doing something abhorrent to win a game? I never said anyone was. I thought it was abhorrent to say WE were doing anything wrong! I never said I was good at the game, if thats what you're saying I thank you for that. I'm not even close to where I was five years ago.

5. I didnt bring this subject up in chat, you did. And its irrelevant here, really. Your agency chose not to hunt that one. I understand that, but if they did, I wouldn't have cared. That's their choice. And I would never expect anyone to quit, but that was the implication you made.

6. Youre constantly complaining about some aspect of the game or another, whether its on the threads, or in chat. Sure I complain sometimes when its warranted but youre overkilling it.

Pretty non-sensical still. Feel free to drop by and chat with me about it if you want, I'm there :)