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The Resistance: Order of Socrates Restores Order
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nicnic
nicnic
Battered Shoe

Jun-18-2012 11:08

Once again, turmoil is brewing in the underground crime world of New York. The city is slowly being taken over by La Cosa Nostra, the New York underground mafia. They are recruiting members at record numbers and they can be seen in every night club and bar scaring away customers. And now Joseph Hollis, the High Philosopher of the Order of Socrates, and mayor of New York, has learned of a secret plan by his rival faction, La Cosa Nostra, to go on a crime spree and make off with money, valuables, and ultimate control of various establishments in New York.

Mr. Hollis, being not only concerned with the livelihoods of the patrons of his city, but also with his rival faction gaining too much power, has decided to put together a team of trusted Order of Socrates resistance operatives to foil the plans of La Cosa Nostra. Unfortunately, there has been a lot of attrition lately, and certain people have been going to the highest bidder to offer their services as a spy working from within the Order of Socrates. Joseph is aware of this and he's put together the best possible team he can think of, but unwittingly will be inviting some spies for La Cosa Nostra to his team of operatives.

As long as the loyal Order of Socrates operatives can figure out whom amongst them is untrustworthy, their mission should be a success. But if they trust the wrong people, La Cosa Nostra will succeed and cause severe damage to the New York economy, while gaining enough power to take over the city.

Will the mayor and his team be able to restore order to New York? Or will the underground mafia, take over the city's resources? That's for you to decide in this version of The Resistance: Order of Socrates Restores Order


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biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-27-2012 11:10

thats what she said!!!

Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jun-27-2012 11:13

Resistance should also realize that in the 5th mission 1 sabotage vote will be enough to fail the mission!

We had to know who these guys were, because if the game wrapped around 5 people would have to be in the mission and we still didn't know who the rest of the spies were before the least mission.

We only suspected it, we had to know so that not one of them gets into the eam in the next mission.

THIS MEANS: If resistance is to win a game it will be only by going through this procedure anyway.

We had to identify them at some point, and we did this when we had the advantage!

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-27-2012 11:15

You guys are pretty lucky that the other two spies haven't been identified yet. Because now you'll sneak one onto the last team no problem.

Sigh.

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-27-2012 11:16

Unless, like my girl smallz there, you realize that these two have been lying to you all along

Serges
Serges
Vigilante

Jun-27-2012 11:22

Let's assume, just ASSUME here, that Biggie is right. That Eden and I are spies.

OK, we "clear" each other in the first mission. Great. So far so good, logically.
We then spend 2 missions voluntarily putting at LEAST 2 spies on mission teams. You just DON'T do that when you're a spy. You don't choose to be in a situation where you could have more SABOTAGES than necessary, because that incriminates half your team right there.

In the 3rd mission that passed, I force Biggie to vote in the open. Why? To prove she's resistance when I know she is, and when it's not in my best interest as a supposed spy? If I don't force her into the open, then there would be more confusion as to who threw SABOTAGE since, remember, Eden and I are AGAIN on the same mission. We'd NEED to cover a SABOTAGE play with as much doubt as we could. Logic just doesn't hold there.

In the 4th mission, we need 2 spies to be on the mission. I vote NO, knowing the mission is going to fail? Doesn't make sense.

Seriously, I encourage ANYONE to prove that a single action I've made in this game has been to te detriment of the Resistance. Remember that Marc proposed a team with TWO spies on it. Remember that I'm willing to stand down in mission 5, knowing that if the other 5 resistance members are on it, we'll win.

Remember who's panicking right now. Eden and me, who know we're right about the 4 spies and think the Resistance has the upper hand? Or Biggie and Marc, who know if they don't do SOMETHING drastic now, the spies will lose?

Serges
Serges
Vigilante

Jun-27-2012 11:26

Molly, Riza, Cekuray, and Illicit are the only people who don't know everyone's identities. The 4 spies have known since day 1, and Eden and I have very luckily been able to deduce it through cards and team make-ups.

THEY are the people Biggie is going to target with her accusations. I'll just ask them to vote based on whether or not THEY are on the last team.

Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jun-27-2012 11:26

Serges they are denying it and they are saying that "it's a strategy". They are calling the chance factor a strategy!

You'll have to repeat that many times. They are also denying that they cannot give an explanation, too.

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-27-2012 11:27

Really? I'm in a panic?

I think you should take a read back at all these pages. I'm stating my position and Eden is responding to every post. So if posting a lot is a sign of being a spy, I guess your guy Eden would be as well :)

Your moves make logical sense. But so does making those moves in order to get yourself to this point. Any other time you could have outed yourself.

You finally outed yourself this time because a) you had no choice and b) now you get to have a big comeback win, which we all know you love :)

I would have outed you before if you hadn't fooled me so well. Now I KNOW you're a spy, and you're ducking for cover :)

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-27-2012 11:33

and Eden I explained EVERY MOVE I've made.

You guys threw a bunch of math statistics up to confuse everyone. You guys have played brilliantly, there's no debating that. But its crumbling around you now, thankfully. There's still a chance the Resistance can pull this one out.

Eden Zweig
Eden Zweig
Nomad

Jun-27-2012 11:40

ASK YOURSELVES:

One spy(A) is the team leader.
A gets the other spy B into his team.

Could A and B coordinate themselves so that

1) both A and B vote succeed in the first mission to go unidentified?

2) only one of them votes succeed in the next mission?

3) can they telepathically communicate and decide which of them votes SABOTAGE and which of them votes SUCCEED?

4) Do you call this strategy or chance factor? Can chance factor itself be a strategy? Please give this a thought.

We needed to identify them because we'd have to get 2 more people whose identities we needed to know. Because we'll need 5 SUCCEEDs from now on!


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