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Apr-11-2012 15:54

What does it mean when anyone hasnt seen or heard anything suspicious??????????????????

Apr-24-2012 15:17

Actually, I agree with the Queen. When you ask townies if they heard about something about this case. If they say yes i think so and so thinks they know who the murderer is, then they know someone who is linked to some physical evidence. It doesn't mean they are right about knowing the guilty one. If they reply that so and so hasn't heard anything about the case, then you don't need to waste your time with questions.

As per hints of guilt, I have never seen anything that would indicate this in the game so far. This game is about facts and deductions. I know I wouldn't base any accusation based on this.

Hope this helps.

Raven

Apr-25-2012 03:08

It's nothing to do with physical evidence. It's about witness evidence, i.e. the evidence that you may get from suspects if you ask whether they've heard or seen anything to make them suspect somebody.

If you're told 'John Smith thinks he knows who the murderer is'. then John Smith will have a piece of witness evidence against one of the suspects. This does not mean that John Smith is right in his suspicions: he may have witness evidence against someone with a valid alibi.

If you're told 'John Smith hasn't heard or seen anything suspicious' then, as Raven says, you know not to waste questions trying to get witness evidence out of John Smith.

I have also never observed anything that leads me to think it can be a hint about being guilty. I wouldn't base any accusation on it either.

Apr-25-2012 17:36

Actually Cordelia, every witness evidence is linked to a piece of PE. So if you are doing a AI case and you have 4 piece of evidence. Then you will have 5 eye witness in total.

One for every suspect with a real alibi that is linked to a PE and two that link the guilty party(who also happens to be linked to one of the PE).

I sometimes try to get all the eye witness evidence as a challenge for fun. But most suspects really enjoy clam chowder....

Apr-26-2012 05:29

OK, I agree that might well be the case - I've never gone around trying to get all the available witness evidence. I just think it's potentially confusing linking townie hints to physical evidence in the newbies thread, since the key issue is where your witness evidence can come from.

Out of interest, suppose you're doing an AI case, and you only have three pieces of PE. That means that one of your suspects with a real alibi will not be linked to any PE. Will there still be WE for that suspect?

Apr-26-2012 08:36

Please remember that this is a Newbie's thread.

Trying to establish whether a WE matches to a suspect with a real alibi is not helpful to a Newbie. Dark Raven is talking about going to great (but unnecessary) lengths to explore a case to its limits. These discussions are for the advanced, not Newbies.

Newbies: If you get a townie that says a suspect does not know anything. Do not bother asking that suspect for anything beyond an alibi and/or trying to accumulate more suspects.

Apr-26-2012 09:25

Q: Ask whether she has heard or seen anything to make her suspect somebody.

A: No, I have no reason to suspect Stella.

Please note, that this response it only for Stella. If you ask about Tyson, you may get a different answer (if the suspect doesn't clam).

This is refered to as witness (WE) if you get a postive answer.

PE+WE DOES NOT equal guilty.
WE + WE or WE + fake or none of your business alibi = GUILTY

That's the bare bones. The rest of it is just fun for us old shoes to discuss. ;)

Apr-26-2012 09:27

sigh, my fingers don't type as fast as my inner voice speaks....

This is refered to as witness evidence (WE) if you get a postive answer.

Aug-16-2012 08:47

If somebody hasn't seen or heard anything suspicious, that can be very helpful. It means you can ask if they know anyone who would have a motive, without risking forfeiting witness evidence.