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CONTEST: Survivor Sleuthville
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Heimlich VonVictor
Heimlich VonVictor
Vigilante

Oct-1-2009 22:03

Do you have what it takes to outlast all others? Do you think you can rise above the rest and stand out as the ultimate contender? Welcome Ladies and Gentlemen to Survivor: Sleuthville!

10 Detectives enter, face off against each other in a different challenge every week, and the last left standing will be crowned Sleuth Noir Survivor! The winner will walk away with a one-year subscription to Sleuth Noir and bragging rights over the entire community. The rules are simple:

1. The first ten Detectives to post an entry will be entered and placed on two teams of five.

2. It's advisable to be subscribed. Some of the challenges may require travel, and if you can't participate, it's likely your team will vote you off at elimination. I won't bar anyone based on this, but it's your call.

3. The losing team at the end of each event will have to vote off one member. To do that each team member will submit a PM to me, which will remain anonymous with the name of the person he or she is voting for, and a short reason why. It can be as simple as-

Name: Heimlich VonVictor
Why: He didn't write any of the poem. It's no wonder we lost!

4. Challenges will be one week long and a winner will be announced at the end, in the event of a tie, a coin will be flipped.

5. Anyone may enter including mods, editors, or even Ben and Sunny themselves if they so choose.

6. The contest will begin when all ten detectives have entered and been placed on teams. It will conclude after nine weeks of elimination challenges.

That's all! Get out there and outwit, outplay, and outlast!

Replies

Ms Helen
Ms Helen
Con Artist

Oct-31-2009 04:14

In response to VS. I assume that I am being included in the people who had done over 600 cases, so I am going to respond. I don't have access to multiple accounts, I have access to two. The title of the challenge was to beg,borrow and steal. So what did I do? I asked my directors if I may use some cases whilst they were taking a break. I asked my friends if they had cases they didn't need and I was fortunate that they allowed me to use all their cases. You can ask most people around here and they will tell you that before this challenge I hadn't played a case in about 3-4 months. Did I find the last challenge hard? Yes I found it tiring and physically draining. You will note that those of us who did have over 600 cases completed have already lost about 300 of them cases. I haven't played a single case since the end of the challenge just because it was so hard for me to do. And yes I am one of the people who threatened to castrate Heim because of the challenge he set. I found it demanding and to me that's one of the reasons for a contest like this.

On a final note to suggest the cancellation of round 3 would be incredibly unfair to BOTH teams. Every person involved in this challenge worked to their limit. You think it's fair to take that away from them?

Aknas
Aknas
Con Artist

Oct-31-2009 06:08

I would like to say thanks to all the detectives who helped my team in the last challenge. And thank you too to Team Lenape. You guys were very competitive. ;) We tried our best, but in every game, there's always a winner and a loser. Tough luck, eh?

Now for this next challenge, I am confuse. How do we win in this challenge? By making as many intros as possible? Or by writing a great intro? Or is it both? Any specific criteria?

Ms Helen
Ms Helen
Con Artist

Oct-31-2009 07:38

Oops knew I would forget to mention something :)

I realise that some people may think I have an unfair advantage being an editor myself. Therefore for this week I will be using Adam Carter's detective and won't log onto myself as from today. I will submit my intros via Adam's detective too just so there is no confusion. If anyone has any doubts they will be able to see that I haven't been logged on as myself :)


Anais Nin
Anais Nin
Thespian

Oct-31-2009 08:04

First off to VS- As with Ms Helen, Riza had her own detective, and then one of the accounts is her second. I gave her my cases, along with my second's. Other detectives cases who are other people's seconds were also used. In no way did Riza have more then the 24 cases plus the accompanying favors of her very own. I and the other members of Vidocq store cases for Riza. I found the last challenge incredibly hard and I was benched! I agree with Ms Helen that that would be unfair to everyone who worked so hard in this past week.

Moving on- Comanches, I stand in awe of you all as well! Well, I stand in awe of everyone, but that was a good battle- we were scared over in Lenape!

A Storybook Story:
The way I understand the contest is that it is neither the most intros one can crank out, nor the absolute most fantastic intros one has ever written. No, What this is is to write as many GOOD, INTERESTING, and CAPTIVATING intros as you are able to in a week. If you submit lots of poor quality intros, you are penalized (Golden Diaper award). So, it is not just a numbers game. :) It is a quality control numerical game that makes me want to pull my hair out! ;)

Anais Nin
Anais Nin
Thespian

Oct-31-2009 08:17

Anais walked over to Heimlich with the names of those to be benched for the week's challenge.

"And who have Lenape chosen this week?" he inquired.

Anais gestured vaguely over to the edge of the woods where a picnic bench sat. Joseph Zeo lay underneath, hat over eyes, fast asleep. Ctown was doing the tribe dance in his cape (hopefully with clothing on beneath it...), while Riza sucked on 12 lollipops at once.

Anais gave a sigh. "Jospeph Zeo, ctown28, and Riza Hawkeye are benched this week, sir."

Heimlich VonVictor
Heimlich VonVictor
Vigilante

Oct-31-2009 10:30

Alright wow. I didn't think there would be this much concern over the challenge, so let me address the issues.

Concerning challenge # 3, I was not aware of any rule limiting detectives to 150 cases per week, but consider the following scenario. I am an agency director, and I have access to many of my agency members' accounts in case they should forget to return equipment they have borrowed from the locker or to play/set out their cases for them should they take a leave of absence. Mike is a rookie in my agency. He plays all twelve cases a day. In fact, he's frequently the only member who gets through all twelve cases. Now let's say Steve is also a member in my agency, he's going on vacation and asks me to set his cases out for free every day for a week. So every day I manage to put all twelve of Steve's cases in the case files, and every day, Mike solves them, as he is the only one who has made it through his case load.

7 x 12= 84 So Mike has done his caseload plus Steve's giving us: 84 x 2= 168! According to you, the proper thing for me to do in this situation would be to chastise Mike for violating the code of ethics by completing the cases that were given to him.

I do not agree with this at all, and I am of the very strong opinion that there was certainly great community involvement in this challenge. The amount of PMs I received reflected the level to which many non-participants took this challenge on as their own and wanted to help the tribe members succeed. To throw out the results of this challenge, and invalidate the community effort that went into it, would be an absolute slap in the face to everyone who gave a single case to this challenge.

Heimlich VonVictor
Heimlich VonVictor
Vigilante

Oct-31-2009 10:45

Concerning the Lenape's numbers. I have personally heard from both Riza Hawkeye and Joseph Zeo, before this challenge was even announced, that they would be benching themselves for RL reasons and didn't feel they would be able to contribute. Furthermore, as there will be one participant coming back, I don't see anything stopping topkebab, Valentina D'Angeli, and Kyle XY Rocks from actively contributing intros for the Comanche team.

One PM even insinuated that I designed these challenges with the Lenape tribe in mind for victory. These challenges were designed before the tribes were even formed, before I knew who was participating, and before the contest was even posted! How were teams decided? The person with the highest exp was paired with the person with the lowest exp, both were placed on Comanche. The person with the second highest exp was paired with the person with the second lowest exp, both were placed on Lenape. The person with the third highest exp was paired with the person the third lowest exp, both were placed on Comanche. So on and so forth.

If a junk intro is submitted, it will count for zero points. If three junk intros are submitted, not only will none of them count for points, but your team loses a point from a good intro. The intro I submitted was #1525, so all intros should be higher than that one in number.

As there seems to be widespread dissatisfaction over this, I will propose an alternative, which we can abide by if a majority of the participating tribe members agree to it. Otherwise, we will go with the original rules.

1. Every participating tribe member will submit up to five intros.
2. Every good quality intro will count for 1 point towards your tribe total.
3. Every poor quality intro will count for -1 points against your tribe total.
4. Intros will still be due at 19:00 Sleuth Time on November 6, 2009.
5. As there is a maximum of 15 intros per team, should there be a tie a winner will be determined by the toss of a coin.

Heimlich VonVictor
Heimlich VonVictor
Vigilante

Oct-31-2009 10:47

Reward: The Golden Quill Immunity Award will be given to whomever a panel of judges determine has written the best quality introduction overall.

Please let me know which set of rules we would like to go with.

ctown28
ctown28
Huntsman

Oct-31-2009 11:25

I think your original plan is just fine Heim, I had a few concerns but those have already been addressed and explained to me. I vote for the original rules from my seat on the bench! ;-)



Heimlich VonVictor
Heimlich VonVictor
Vigilante

Oct-31-2009 11:46

Thanks for your vote ctown, but when I referred to participating tribe members, I meant participants who weren't benched for this challenge. This way each tribe has three votes. Sorry!

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