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yoyofoshow
yoyofoshow
Old Shoe

Apr-30-2008 20:36

This is posted in both Noir and SoM.

In sleuth world we have a lot of websites giving advice, acting as web pages for players or agencies. This creates a very hard to navigate community, the wiki would take all that information and put into one website.
For those of you who don't know a wiki is a database that can be edited by anyone, but some measures are in place to stop vandals.
The wiki would allow for the most up to date Sleuth Encyclopedia and will give agencies and users to show what they've got beyond the little spaces we are allowed to edit on our profiles.

I would just like to now if there is an interest for this, before I go ahead and maybe set it up.

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ctown28
ctown28
Huntsman

May-2-2008 07:23

Yoyo, I do like the fact that you would have editing rights, that does qualm one of my biggest concerns. I think this is something you can make a go of. If you need any help I'm always willing, just let me know.

R Anstett
R Anstett

May-4-2008 07:14

Well I obviously have a lot of experience with Wiki's so feel free to grab me anytime Yoyo.

As to the idea of people stealing information from one site as Jas mentions:

Here is what we at have on our website:
http://www.globalsleuthsyndicate.org/NewYork.asp

Compared to what Jas is using on her site:
http://www.freewebs.com/thebluepagoda/archvillains.htm


So I think you can interpret Jas' comments to actually mean: steal anything you want from any site without asking permisssion.

ctown28
ctown28
Huntsman

May-4-2008 10:02

I noticed that as well Ran, but didn't wnat to point anything out as I didn't know if permission was issued or not, as most of you remember I asked before linking any agency on DPI's website and there were reasons that lil and me (mostly lil) redid all the pics for our villain hunt page, we wanted the work to be our own.

But that's really not what this thread is about so we shouldn't turn it into an all war against anyone. Yoyo, thinking about it, I think it's a great idea so you should go for it. Anyone that doesn't want to participate doesn't have to!

lilangel
lilangel
Sleuth About Town

May-4-2008 13:00

Sounds to me like a few of us don't mind and like the idea of Wiki for Sleuth. I hope that when you do get it started, you ask again in PM with those you'd like to get information from.

R Anstett
R Anstett

May-4-2008 13:22

I agree Ctown, and you know that we have given permission to you and others.

Not trying to turn the thread into any sort of war, was just pointing out that those who were against sharing were already stealing.

I think the idea of a wiki is a good thing, but a separate one; not on wikipedia. Yoyo's idea is a good one and I think he can do a good job as an admin for it.

Odietrying
Odietrying
Old Shoe

May-4-2008 16:33

If I recall correctly, there was an article about Sleuth on wiki a while back (like two years ago when I played every day and had no RL).

When I clicked on the link, it had been removed. I checked the edits, and it was removed because it was considered to be an advertisement.

Don't know if anything happened after that, never bothered to check, but be aware that an article might be viewed as such.

R Anstett
R Anstett

May-4-2008 17:07

Yes Odie, I was one of the people who edited that orginal wikipedia article. We could not modify it enough to please the moderators there.

Anything new would have to be hosted somewhere else.

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

May-4-2008 17:29

^ was thinking same thing as odie about wiki being pulled. But yes doesn't have to be on wikipedia.

^ I think in terms of what's on agency websites my response [in terms of game information] is 'meh'. There is 'some' original content out there, but it's in the vast minority, and a LOT of it has just been passed through the mill from one agency / player to the next, and gathered from a variety of players willing to share what they've learned regardless of where that info. might end up, as well as graphics and words pulled from the actual sleuth site, so on and so forth.

I have no idea about copyright and permission to link stuff except to say that I think Hypothetical Software is fairly generous. :)

Good luck yoyo. It's a good idea as a 'general' resource that might get people involved contributing to the game in a 'different' way.


yoyofoshow
yoyofoshow
Old Shoe

May-4-2008 19:45

This decision is getting harder and harder. Some people are telling me to go for it, others are skeptical. I need to think this out. I can see that some people will be unhappy about what may happen to their current websites, and that it may ruin the community and take away individuality. But there are also many benefits to having a wiki. Not sure yet, continue debating :)

lilangel
lilangel
Sleuth About Town

May-4-2008 20:15

Well, I do see the point of the fact that there isn't much on various sites as original. There are differences though. The originality comes from our creativity.

To be frank here, while we tend to rewrite things and whatnot on the sites, even as far as copy and paste, many of us learn the basics of making a website. I'll be darned if any one of us, aside from the select few who know the technical things, would be able to actually mimic the whole game. I see the different websites, some on google pages, some on freewebs, and even as far as aol and wiki (which is what yoyo's wanting to do here) as a good stepping stone to learning the basics of graphical creativity. Some of us are better writers than artists (graphical or not)... and you see some of that going through various sites.

I do agree with what has been said, just find some things sort of ironic. Like how would I be able to have a problem with the information on DPI's site being redistributed once more, IF I had gotten them off another site? Granted, I'm not the only one who updates and edits DPI's site, but I do a lot of work there. I have been working on several more artistic projects than writing at the moment. It's not easy to come up with something unique, but yet at the same time, you want to share what you know, which is the same as what everyone else knows. However, it is easy to copy and paste and call it your own.

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