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Gopher to the Sleuth Gods

Feb-17-2008 05:17

Do you ever make up your own words to songs? How about while you’re Sleuthing? Now’s your chance to show off your song writing talent. The rules:

All songs must be a parody of a Beatle song. They must also be in keeping with our Noir theme. The original title must be at the top so judges will know which tune to “sing by.” You can have your own title too just put the original in “( )”

The contest ends at the last server moment of the leap day, February 29. So March is too late.
Judges will be Anikka, Lady Jas, and myself.

Prizes are : 1st place - an AVH reward plus 100K sleuth dollars
2nd place- Choice of an AVH reward or 100k sleuth dollars.

Entry Example:

Help, you know I need somebody,
Help, I just saw a body,
Help, you know I need a Sleuth,

When I was going out, only yesterday,
I nearly fell over a body propped up in my way,
There was blood spilt all over the floor,
I screamed and ran back, slamming shut my door.

Help me if you can I feel afraid,
And I don't want to go to my grave,
Help, I think I may be next,
Wont you please, please help me?


Gopher to the Sleuth Gods

Mar-5-2008 05:11

Mr. VS

First, you are making some huge assumptions here.
#1 " That I wield any power over Anikka and Lady Jas, that in itself is ridiculous.
#2- That any of these contests have any meaning other than being a fun challenge.
#3- That any of the contestants would do anything to win other than submit their best work.

If a judge is supposed to exclude a friend from the contests then there would be no more contests. I have many friends VS, as does Anikka and Lady Jas. They have hosted many contests and no-one has ever questioned their integrity before and I am offended that you do so now. You have also called into question the integrity of all contestants by implying that anyone would contact a judge to try to get their vote. That too is insulting as well as ridiculous. The judges were unanimous in the vote and as you can see by the posts the other entrants obviously agreed with us. I believe you owe Anikka and Lady Jas an apology.

Safety Officer

Mar-5-2008 05:36

I think that everyone should just relax, and not spoil one of the better competitions that Sleuthville has seen, with a lot of toing and froing.

The competition and judging were both carried out in a great spirit. And with three judges there was sufficient range and breadth of opinion to legitimise any decision making process.

As Sophie intimates, I think if everyone who had a Sleuth friend or agency mate running / judging a competition excluded themselves on the basis of conflict of interest then it would be a very narrow field indeed.

Me personally, I have enough respect for my fellow Sleuth's intelligence and integrity to trust that when running and judging a competition, they would use both in these instances.

Congrats to Sophie for organising, the judges for judging, the entrants for entering, and especially the winners for err winning it. They were both well deserved.

Now play nice and don't bang on about it and scare off the newbies from future competitions.

Safety Officer

Mar-5-2008 05:39

and once more from the top... all together...

When I get older, losing my hair
Many years from now,
Will I still be sharp enough to take the case?
Grill those townies, get in their face?
Pounding the pavements, knocking on doors
Old joints feeling sore.
Will I still make it, will I still take it
When I’m sixty-four?

Contacts grow old too.
And if their eyesight goes,
I'll need someone new.

I could retire, give up the case,
Let those villains be,
Trade the sailor pantsuit for a dressing gown,
Put my fan and parasol down.
Sipping martinis, backing Old Tom,
Strolling by the shore.
Will I still make it, will I still take it,
When I’m sixty-four?

Every summer I will take a holiday in Shangri La
With those friendly monks
Learning to steep tea.
Scholars on lonely trails,
Mountain, Toe and Sea.

It won’t be easy, making the grade
When I’m slowing down.
Murderers get younger as your hair gets grey.
Flirting powers wasting away.
Still I’ll stick with it, hunting them down
Till the final score.
Will I still make it, will I still take it
When I’m sixty-four?

[Music Lennon/McCartney, Lyrics Cordelia Falco]

Brady Quinn
Brady Quinn
Big Winner

Mar-5-2008 06:15

Well I was gonna post my opinions here but there is no need, it was summed up perfectly by Sophie. For that I award Sophie....Well, I don't have anything to award her but she has all she needs and that's the integrity to fairly judge these contests. While I would have liked to win, not for the prize, but the glory, how can I argue that any of my entries was any better than the ones that one. Vamp you owe the entire community an apology IMHO.

Vampiric Smile
Vampiric Smile
Safety Officer

Mar-5-2008 06:31

Madam Sophie
1. I never said that the other Judges have been influenced. I said that you may have been influenced in a conscious or a subconscious level.
2. I agree that the contest was for fun and that is why I have congratulated Stooby for his input but Phoenix Shadow never said that his entry was for fun only!. I have also raised the issue of integrity that a Judge should never express judgment when is influenced (even in a subconscious level).
3. You are for sure free to make any contest in your Agency with your fellow teammates but when you do it open then you should either not accept entries from your teammates (unless they are for fun) or resign from the position of the Judge.
4. You say that you are offended by my argument !!! You even call my opinion on the issue of integrity as ‘insulting as well as ridiculous’ !!! Are you also offended by the truth, common logic or every day practice of every court in any civilized country?
5. I have clearly stated that I agree 100% with the first position taken and in this aspect I also agree with the other posts you are mentioning.
6. Even the last minute you should understand your mistake, consult the other Judges and give the second place award to ctown28 or Bonelady or MaiCapone or Brady Quinn !

Brady Quinn
Brady Quinn
Big Winner

Mar-5-2008 07:27

You are clearlyt in the wrong here VS, based on wanting to award 2nd place to this detective, wouldn't that question whether or not Anikka was influenced since she is my teammate in Wish On a Star? The fact is, the judges have spoken and I think we all respect the opinion, it wasn't like Phoenix put in a hack entry, it was an excellent entry and deserved to win. Actually most of the entries put in deserved to win, but unfortunately everyone can't win.

Perhaps you can come up with a contest of your own and make the rules for that contest. This one is no different than any other contest that has been won in the past and there is no reason to change them now. If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Sleuth About Town

Mar-5-2008 09:07

Sometimes strange or unexpected statements that is felt like insulting by the reciever tells more about the thoughts and thinking of the sender.

Would it be that someone think they know others by the way they know themselves?

VS seem to think that a judge can be influenced in a concious or a subconcious level. Would that be a way of confessing that if he were a judge he know he would be in the danger of being influenced?

Sophie seems to be amazed about the thought of having been influenced. Would that be a way of confessing that she did not even consider influence from her relations to the contestants when judging?


Mar-5-2008 13:34

Well Thanks VS for the vote of confidence in me but I did not step aside because Sophie was holding the contest, I did it as I was donating a prize so it would have been daft to try and win it back :-)

It's Sophie's first time judge and the other judges and done it many many many times before VS so if any could be swayed it would be unlikely to be anyone other than Sophie.

There is no need to for contests to exclude agency members of all 3 judges, that would have rulled out 3 agency's and a lot of potental enteries.

Lighten up VS, it was a super fun contest and should be treated as such, fun.

Pinball Amateur

Mar-5-2008 14:13

Congratulations to ALL the entrants, including Cordelia and Phoenix. You've all done something that is light-years beyond my ability--1. writing a poem in the first place (I am, after all "The World's Worst Poet Ever", and wear the Crown quite happily ;-), and 2. taking that poem and setting it to music and refining it to fit that music. That takes an incredible amount of talent and creativity, and all of you deserve to be extremely proud of your efforts. Wonderful job, EVERYONE!! ;-D


Mar-5-2008 14:38

Oh yes, sorry I had to dash off quick and missed out on saying once again a huge well done to all who entered, a great lot of enteries and an extra special well done to the 2 very well deserved winners.

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