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Jordan Cervantes
Jordan Cervantes

Nov-27-2007 19:29

Hello All-
I am a relative newbie and I have literally spent the last 3 hours trying to read through threads so please forgive me if this has been proposed already. I appreciate all comments.
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Also, I hope this is in the right forum....

If/when a detective finds a bloody footprint, you can determine if it's male or female blood using a simple blood test while you are in the field. If you can already determine it came from a heavy or slender person (Advanced Footprint Analysis) , one more test is all you would need to do.

I know this game takes place in the 1920's-1940's, so genetic testing was available--even if it was in it's infancy.

You can make a pregnancy test (or something like it) purchasable with some skill points under the "Smarts" category.
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Part II

Another idea I have is to have weapons as a part of the crime scene. In other words, the killer left in a rush/panic and left a bloody knife. You can then lift the bloody fingerprint and, like the handwriting analysis, determine if the person was a righty or a lefty. You would leave a heavier print on a murder weapon with your dominant hand. You can also add ropes and then the sleuth will have to figure out if the killer tried to cover up by making it look like a suicide. This would be a great twist especially in the case of a really neat crime scene (the experienced killer) or if the body was moved.

Since detectives can purchase guns from certain factions, I think, they can be added as murder weapons too because I think sleuths during that time could test for GSR.

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David Adams
David Adams
Red-Nosed

Nov-28-2007 00:21

Hi Jordan. Interesting ideas you've come up with. There are several threads already, which discuss possible new skills and/or improvements on the boards.

A couple things....

One, we already have skills which determine if evidence is male or female. Threads are divided into male and female categories around here.

Unfortunately, your research is a bit off about genetic testing. It wasn't even discovered until the 1980's. DNA itself wasn't even discussed much in theoretical discussions until the 1950's, not the '20's. So genetic testing's out. There weren't many practical methods of testing blood back then, and almost all of them had to be conducted in a labratory setting (hardly conducive to a crime scene).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_testing

Secondly, to conduct a pregnancy test back then, you needed a live rabbit. Since most of us don't have rabbits popping out of our hats on regular occasions (yes, pun intended), having a portable pregnancy test would be rather difficult.

Also, why on earth would you want to conduct a pregnancy test on your blood evidence? Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me, at least in this site.

While fingerprint analysis was available in the 1920's-'40's, it was a slow, manpower-intensive skill. Fingerprints cannot be analyzed without having a second sample to compare it to. Fingerprint analysis would also be a programming nightmare, which would make it difficult to implement.

Gushot residue (GSR) testing was possible in the Sleuth era, but it was primitive, and required a background in chemistry (something most of us don't have). Bringing in weapons as another evidence possibility has been discussed before, but I suspect there's programming issues involved.

They're interesting ideas though. Thanks for posting them.

Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Nov-28-2007 00:52

Perhaps more of your ideas will appear in Sleuth SOM.

Jordan Cervantes
Jordan Cervantes

Nov-28-2007 08:19

I hope they do appear in some form or another, Stooby.

David Adams<---As for some of the blood testing ideas I had, it was a 3AM rant after waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much coffee and 2 little sleep. It was an idea though (-:



Nikki Arroyo
Nikki Arroyo

Nov-28-2007 08:35

Jordan, you have been watching way too much CSI from the way you describe the evidence you propose. GSR???? Please. This game takes place in the 1920's, not present day if you haven't guessed by now. Pretty much, unless you see the crime happen and are standing over the killer while the crime is happening, you aren't going to aprehend anyone.

Your archetype is a lawyer....shouldn't you be in court or writing a deposition? Leave the crime stuff to those of us who know what we are doing.

Your record shows you haven't even broken double digits with you case load anyway so please keep your trap shut until you have the cojones to back up what you say. You might want to lay off the caffiene too.

Anikka
Anikka
Babelfish

Nov-28-2007 10:59

Wow. Just...wow.

There's nothing wrong with having ideas and there's nothing wrong with throwing ideas out to bounce off of other people. Some really good things come from that.

So no one should be afraid to throw out ideas. If those ideas are too advanced for the time period, then oh well - but perhaps they might make someone think of something more timeline appropriate.

In addition, there's just no need for anyone to be nasty about ideas given by others, regardless of their detective age or experience level. Personal attacks are never pretty and they don't lead to anything beneficial.

Thank you.

Nikki Arroyo
Nikki Arroyo

Nov-28-2007 11:13

Annika-I am not saying there is anything wrong with people's ideas, they just need to be appropriate for the time frame. That's all.

BTW-Nice pic....love the hair (-:

Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Nov-28-2007 13:30

BTW wasn't around in the 20's...

No need to tell people off for missing the time frame, it's easy to do. I do think someone had a case of over CSI'ness and there are more appropriate games out there. I alsoa gree if you've only just started playing youshould play mroe before ideas get put on the board, you never know, there's probably already something ebtter but you just dont know it yet.

Moses Akimbe
Moses Akimbe

Nov-28-2007 13:56

so when does this game take place?

Bigger Mac
Bigger Mac

Nov-28-2007 14:28

Way to go Jordan, Your free to express you're opinion on these boards no matter how new you are, cases youve solved or what some of these idiots say.

You have been polite and friendly, and that should be repected.

Need more people like you, Annika and Dave around this place, who give respectful replies, and stop those who say things like..........

'I do think someone had a case of over CSI'ness and there are more appropriate games out there' ,

and

' please keep your trap shut until you have the cojones to back up what you say'.

Talk about putting new comers off............FS

Moses Akimbe
Moses Akimbe

Nov-28-2007 14:35

Bigger Mac<---As a relative newbie too, I have taken some time to read through some of the newbie posts and I am still unsure of this game's time frame. I was under the assumption we're talking about Prohibition Era b/c you can rent out a speakeasy as agency space. Just a thought.

While I don't want to come off as racist, would African-Americans have been able to be sleuths in the first place? Just wondering now that I think about it and the fact I have a Black man as my avatar.

Even if it would be a programming nightmare, I think the weapons are a cool idea. It can't be as daunting as running this whole site and inserting the programming code that randomized so much of this game's platform.

Cheers all @)----------------------------- Long stem rose for anyone who wants it.

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