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Jul-16-2007 15:54

For heavens sake!! Write somewhere (in the FAQ for example) that the skill point gain is based on experience! This is HUGE, and it's not an obvious thing!

Had I known I wouldn't have been so desperate for cash now. Also I wouldn't have so crappy skills and equipment, and most importantly I wouldn't have accumulated two false accusations in my desperation to earn more cash and skill points.

Now I have about 1500 bucks. I need about 10k to get rid of my false accusations. Also the only piece of equipment I *ever* bought with this character is a snub nosed revolver for 3k. You can do the maths yourself. I'm devastated because I didn't know that skill points were xp generated..

:'(

Fortunately I'm no quitter and I will get back up. But I am severely pissed off that I got here in the first place.

Jul-17-2007 07:03

lol isnt it just : )

Jul-17-2007 07:12

Well I'm certainly more tired now reading this than when I started.

Wow Fionn maybe you're not much one for the readin' boyo but you sure are one for the writin' :D [me too ;)]

Yeah there probably should be something about skill points vs XP in the FAQ or the Help file. [Not that I've read either thoroughly]. There's a vague reference in the Help file that says skill points are earned through solving cases... lol really?! But nothing about the sliding scale & it being based on XP.

It would have to be a vague reference that said something like 'the rate at which you earn skill points is based on your level of XP'.

Personally when I first started I thought it was based on No. of cases & XP. So if I did 1 case at 10xp I'd earn a skill point. When I got to 1000 XP I'd have to do 5 cases. lol that kind of worked until I got to about 10000 XP and tried to do easies to generate skill points and got nothing :D Hey it was a plan! And no, I'm not very mathematically minded.

Heh you think Skill points vs XP is bad Fionn, wait 'til you do your head in trying to work out the formula Ben uses to base how much we have to pay Shady :D

Jul-17-2007 10:11

Just been looking at the Help screen again, and as well as 'You will earn Skill Points for solving crimes' (with you there, SS!), it does also say

"If you successfully solve a mystery, you will usually be awarded experience and money. The experience will earn you skill points"

OK, it doesn't spell it out exactly, but it's a clue. And I'm with the idea that half the fun of the game is figuring this stuff out.

Fionn, yes, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. Don't think anyone's really saying otherwise! But hey, so are the rest of us.

Jul-17-2007 12:10

Just out of curiosity, how's the casework and agency-searching coming, Fionn?? ;-)

Jul-17-2007 17:00

Ok.. so.. can I touch you? ;P

Jul-17-2007 17:45

Only if you wanna lose a couple limbs to a miniature Bengal tiger, bud. And that might make working cases a tad more difficult for you, so I wouldn't suggest it.

Jul-17-2007 22:17

I'm not searching to be honest, Breitkat. The offers are dropping in. But I haven't decided yet. I'm the kind of person that you shouldn't put in front of a pizza menu. It'll take at least 45 minutes. Mmm. That touch you comment was aimed at Lady Dev, and still a joke sorta (can't figure out what I said that upset miss guided, that was bad language though).

The case solving is going.. somewhere. I'm struggling, but I've been working hard all yesterday and will do so today as well. I'm up at just above 4k or so now, so I'm considering if I should go to Delhi because it's cheaper there, or do it in NY, or don't bother and get another book instead, or maybe a Quattro Staggione..

And also, Squirrel.. I don't think there's anything wrong with the skill point system. Now that I know of it.. *grumbles* ;P

What was wrong was the abscense of information or at least easily aquired information on how it was built, and yes I agree that it's fun to figure out how the mysterious xp system works, but as I already said I figured it wrong, and got a false accusation. What was my alternative there? Quitting? Some mysteries are for solving. Others should be revealed to you upon asking. It's like when there's a really hard riddle on the milk carton, and the answer is printed upside down in the lower corner. Remove that answer and you'd see a wave of protests rolling across the country. You know why? Because people haven't gotten their values straight.

"Hay babies are dying in the third world and Ima yell at the fact that my shoelaces are too short."

"Why not just go buy a pair of new pair of laces?"

"TOO SHORT!"

Jul-17-2007 23:30

Back to reading the newbie boards again :-) Never guess, always quit if you have to. Ask anyone even the top level players, some cases you just can't solve no matter how much you want to.

Jul-18-2007 01:28

Fionn…dude, Dued. I mean *Dude*

Dooooooood!

First let me say that after your year or whatever hanging around here, I’m really glad you’ve decided to make your current character known on the boards. Your junk is funny, fo-sho, and I’m enjoying reading it. It’s been like a braces-wearing debutante’s sweet sixteen party, but with more vitriol and less gift-wrapped ponies and inane giggling. Okay?

Okay. Now checkity-check it. I say these nice warm fuzzy things because I don’t want you to get all Crankenstein’s Monster-ish about what I’m gonna say next. Which is this:

You figured it wrong. Big deal. Everyone makes mistakes. And no matter how much you whine about this thing you wanna call ‘the system’, David Duchovny will STILL not come a-knocking and get “oooh, Fionn, can I please please please sign your ‘The Truth Is Out There Poster?”.

Like seriously.

You: This sucks! Here’s a thing that after a year around here, I didn’t know about this game! This sucks! Change stuff!

Other people: If you had looked around a bit, you would have figured this out waaaaay long ago. And felt good. Real good.

You: I did look! I even used the super-simple search-o-matic finding tool you guys keep talking about! Woo hoo I totally used it! It didn’t help! So therefore that tool, by association, also sucks! Fix the F.A.Q, cuz, really, my thing that I couldn’t find anything out about after a year even though other people figure it out real quick is so super-important that it should go in the F.A.Q. before umpteen million other things that other people haven’t figured out that also aren’t plastered in neon sings that make your pockets tingle so you know they’re important. And by the way, anyone who can actually find this stuff has nothing better to do and deserves a sarcastic and vaguely insulting ‘blood hound’ comment.

Other people: Um. How easy do you want it? You type the thing you want to know about into the tell me stuff about what I want to know about magic box, and the first thing you see will tell you what you

Jul-18-2007 01:29

...want to know.

You: Yeah but I didn’t know that I didn’t already know what I wanted to know. And I didn’t look that hard. I, in fact knew that I knew what I wanted to know and I knew that I knew what I knew was the right..knewledge. Or Knewing. Or Canoeing. Or Gnawing a ledge. Or whatever. Therefore I shouldn’t have ever considered the possibility that my idea was wrong. Look at me, I’m still right! Things other people figured out should be explained in the F.A.Q., because even though I said I did the search thingy, and even though I said I have been around for a bit, somehow that piece of info has escaped me. Which NOW strikes me as important, because I owe shady some chump change. So..Ima rant about it a little, up in hurr. I can’t possibly be bothered to look at the first thing that comes up in the first search I do. That’s for infantile losers. Like diapers at a slot machine in a Las Vegas daycare. Now let’s talk about milk. And milk boxes.

(Sidebar…Jeez, mate…most serious players wouldn’t DREAM about bitching about shady fees unless they were into him for a half mil or better. $1500? You should be able to make that in less than a day. )

So. I basically agree with you too. That WOULD be a helpful thing to put somewhere obvious. My question to you would be something along the lines of, ‘How many other things that other people have found fairly obvious do you think Admin-types should put into obvious places, just because someone would have found them helpful, last year?’

What other things that others don’t know that you don’t know you don’t know about should be included in that? And just how long are those laces, anyways???

You: TOO SHORT!

Instead of whining, just ask. Or spend like 8 minutes looking. Around here, a little effort makes shoelaces look like milky milky lactose-free velcro.

Just sayin’