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EDITORIAL: Agencies to Blame?
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Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 12:56

***This is my opinion. Strictly my opinion.***


I've looked at the community, and anyone who's been here longer than 100 days is able to see that Sleuth activity has gone down the tubes. Dead. And what is to blame? The agencies.

Now, agencies aren't the root cause. Let's get that straight. But the way they have been operating is. The problems with agencies are (1) the quantity, (2) the purpose, (3) and the role they play.

Okay, first, the quantity of agencies. Not too long ago, there were about 20-30 agencies. All full at 12 persons each, coming to a total of roughly 240-360 people. That was a good amount. But now, we have almost 120 agencies. That's right. 600% of the amount we had about a year ago. Sure, some may argue that the community has grown, and it certainly has. But 600% growth? I don't think so.

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Stooby
Stooby
Well-Connected

Jun-21-2007 04:59

Rosamund strikes again at making great sense (for those who haven't read her SM in Cairo what on earth are you wating for, it's great!).

The big issue I have with Sleuth 2 comming out is that it makes absolutely terrible business sense to risk splitting your own audiance. As Rosamund says if you enjoy everything in Sleuth Noir there just isn't time to keep up with it all. How can we big fans be expceted to do this and a new Slueth as well? Plus on the community side there's a risk that your character for Sleuth Noir just wont fit into the enw game.

Why oh why isn't Ben deveolping SLeuth Noir more?

Rosamund's ideas to develop Cairo are grreat, Sir Butcher De Vei's Dossier file idea is fantastic. The ability to share SM's amongst freinds has yet to come about. There seems to much still to do to Sleuth Noir that could keep interest going. A new game is going to loose it's shine just as quickly (or slowly to some of us) as this one. What keeps things interesting is development.

Don't get me wrong, flash loading crime scenes, degrading equipment, extra evidence to find - all great ideas but what was wrong with making them an addition to Sleuth Noir? I've said this before and I'll say it again, I just don't hink that I for one can afford to subscribe to 2 games.

Jojo you menace, got us all ranting and raving about anything and everything now!!!

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

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roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Jun-21-2007 05:52

Well I have been in "semi-retirement" for quite awhile now. I pop in to see what is going on, check on the agency and then pop off again. I'm glad JoJo started this post. I think some things need to change around Sleuthville and I totally agreed with Ara's post a couple of pages back ... There really is nothing left for me here except friends to visit. I think this gane is great, I remember the excitement I had as a Newbie, but since I have all my skills, over 10 mill exp points, been on Treasure Hunts and AV Hunts I feel I've done it all.

I think some rules need to change regarding agencies. And I am being totally hypocritical since I am a member of the GSS and my agency was started by two newbies! lol But I think maybe we need to rethink the "sister" agencies and maybe put an age limit on starting a new agency.

BTW, Its nice to see an active post again!!



Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-21-2007 10:16

*is extremely happy with where this post has gone*

Rhiemma Moon
Rhiemma Moon
Well-Connected

Jun-21-2007 12:18

*happily hands over 'most long-winded post' prize to Crunchie* :D ::kicks away soapbox that's banging at her heels::

:D

crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Jun-21-2007 15:44

What do I win???

Can it be a bejeweled muzzle???

cfm
cfm
Nomad

Jun-21-2007 16:10

Okay, so Crunch, somehow I doubt this is the post you were referring to, but since it seems to fit and does mention a fame based idea for hunts....

http://noir.playsleuth.com/map/cityhall/post.spy?id=2389

((And yes, I do realize that this discussion is way bigger than just hunts...*smiles*...but I figured with my absence, all I'm qualified for is thread hunting.))

Rhiemma Moon
Rhiemma Moon
Well-Connected

Jun-21-2007 19:35

Hmmm..... *gets out leatherworking tools* ::mutters:: jewels now? jewels... what've I got... *rummages*

OH! Here we go! *holds up bags of shiny, faceted faux jewels of every color in the rainbow* I'll get busy on this right now... Do you want a traditional muzzle? Or one of the new designs that also act as a leash by *gently* cutting off the breath when pulled tight? :D

crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Jun-21-2007 21:09

errrm...I kinda have one of those already, sorta, but I don't call it a leash and mine's gots a hood...

My safe word is "pamplemousse" ;)

Cougles, you NAILED it! Good digging!

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Jun-22-2007 07:17

Woooo hoooo finally a post I actually care about! :)

I think that statement really kinda qualifies what I think the biggest problem is with sleuth now for ME. The boards are dull, lifeless and lack any sort of interest for very many people now. The same four-eight people or so are the posters all the time, and I for one am sick of my own face (and Crunch's, incidentally ;) just kidding cpizzle, you know I heart your verbal diarrhea).

I agree with Ara and Roamie that now, having gotten all the skills, the ideal equipment, won a bunch of treasures, captured a bunch of villains, right now, its just routine and sorta obligatory that I play my cases, and its certainly not fun or challenging. However, I still do it for my teammates and agency.

I am soooo ridiculously proud to be a part of my agency, I have an ideal team now with awesome, incredible friends who make me laugh every day. What I miss is the days when the whole community felt like that. Where the boards were a constant laugh a minute, and not filled with drivel about who won a soccer match in school, Nancy Drew and why its oh so unfair that unsubs don't get what we who pay do. I miss people like Autumnsprings, J-ro, Al Z, Leddie, Breit, etc who used to post ALL the time and we would just have fun on the boards. Now they are all either inactive, or just not posting. It just sucks, cuz if you newbs go back and read the histories from like a year ago this time, the boards were a rockin place to be, whether it was just funny posts, or even heated debates, at least it was INTERESTING.

Its inevitable in any community that you get a fair share of immature, unreasonable people (myself of course, not excluded from that). I have tried in the last month or so to be more patient with newbies, as I know I started that way, as did everyone else, but its not just a matter of them not knowing what to do, and how to play. Its a matter of certain newbs starting new detectives all the time to get around (more)

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