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EDITORIAL: Agencies to Blame?
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Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 12:56

***This is my opinion. Strictly my opinion.***


I've looked at the community, and anyone who's been here longer than 100 days is able to see that Sleuth activity has gone down the tubes. Dead. And what is to blame? The agencies.

Now, agencies aren't the root cause. Let's get that straight. But the way they have been operating is. The problems with agencies are (1) the quantity, (2) the purpose, (3) and the role they play.

Okay, first, the quantity of agencies. Not too long ago, there were about 20-30 agencies. All full at 12 persons each, coming to a total of roughly 240-360 people. That was a good amount. But now, we have almost 120 agencies. That's right. 600% of the amount we had about a year ago. Sure, some may argue that the community has grown, and it certainly has. But 600% growth? I don't think so.

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Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 14:23

Okay, Jas, agreed on many levels, except for one.

Yes, you can do what you want within the Sleuth rules; I'm not saying you can't. But because everyone has been doing what they want (within the Sleuth rules), we have this enormous (I think) on our hands.

Sure, you can run your agency how you want (I'm not saying you're running it badly), but you have to remember that how you run it will affect the community as a whole.

That's all I have to say on the issue of being able to do what you want.

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 14:25

enormous (I think) problem on our hands*

Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Jun-20-2007 14:31

I'd also like to add, that whilw Jojo is right about the majority of newbies who come on here and only chat...however I've seen a quite few that are hardworking and determined to make their agent the best. They really enjoy the game. In fact I've actually recruited some of them to qutie a few awesome agencies!

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 14:34

As for this portion: "Not too long ago I thought about leaving because of posts like this and the drama that has gone on in the past and the people that bash others for their own opinions"

Well, I don't think this is at all like that. I clearly stated that this is my opinion. You're more than free to disagree with it. I wouldn't expect everyone to just accept it or something.

I'm not trying to create drama, nor have people bash each other, as you can clearly see on my after-post when I say that we all need to respect each other and each other's opinions.

It's just a discussion I feel we should maybe engage in.

Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Jun-20-2007 14:37

Ummm Jojo...I never said that you said I was running it badly...again this is a game and people can do what they see fit within the rules...if Ben and Sunny have a problem with things getting enourmous in terms of new agencies and such, then the can stop it. But really, I think things are fine the way they are!

YOur right how you run it will affect the community. That's why Ive done my hardest to keep Blue a fun, pure place where anyone can feel comfortable and I dont have my agents getting advantages in certain areas. That's why I believe my agency and a few others really stand out! (By the way not bragging on my agency, but I'm just proud of the ethics we enforce around here and we've remained to be a good agency!)

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 14:39

Yes, I would agree. Your agency doesn't do any of the things I've mentioned. I'm not even sure why you're bringing it up, maybe to defend it? But you're not under the fire.

Nor is any other agency. I'm not trying to point agencies out as being "bad" and "good". I just want to express my opinion on the general workings of some agencies.

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 14:45

"if Ben and Sunny have a problem with things getting enourmous [sp] in terms of new agencies and such, then the[y] can stop it"

I completely disagree. I don't think it's their fault. It's ours. It's not their responsibility. Sure, their interaction may make it easier to fix, should something be done, but I don't think neither Ben nor Sunny should be dragged into it. It's not something that can be controlled unless we get completely Nazi with the rules.


Lady Jas
Lady Jas
The Chosen One

Jun-20-2007 14:48

Jojoj I never said it was their fault...where in my sente3nce did you see that. I'm saying if players keep making new agencies and are not ctitive enough for you, then if they see this lack of competitivenss as a problem they can stop it as tehy are the creators of sleuth!

Rhiemma Moon
Rhiemma Moon
Well-Connected

Jun-20-2007 14:49

ok, my two cents worth.

many problems are perceptual. Many problems do not exist until someone perceives there to be one. There have been many changes to the game. AVL hunts were added and many people who used to participate in Treasure Hunts are now pursuing AVL hunts instead or in addition to. Problem is that there are only so many hours in a day and we just can't do it all.

Community wise- well... I'm just not here as much. There are several reasons for that. One is personal and has to do with my health and the fact that I work 2 jobs and am going to school full time also. The other is that I simply got sick and tired of reading the slams from people who seem to feel that no one should have a differing opinion from theirs as well as the level of petty vindictiveness and an inability of some to allow others to make mistakes. So, I quit feeding the Trolls.

This has also had an effect on my game playing. without that sense of community I had I also lost some of my desire to play... I can't deny also that there was a level of burnout. I was playing 12-16 hours a day for nearly the first year of play. So... I'M not treasure hunting. And considering I'm usually the lead hunter in my agency, that seems to affect the agency's hunt quotient. Perhaps it's time to look at the agencies that are usually in the forefront of Treasure Hunting and see why THEY may not be hunting. Sure there is a 600% increase in agencies. Divide that by the number of agencies participating in hunts and you're going to see a definite drop in the percentages.

The only real problem I see is that Sleuth is growing. And I think that is a problem of perception. Games grow, communities change. As they grow they splinter off into smaller (yet growing) communities. Another game I've played has Guilds of 9-300 members. These are communities within the larger game. Sleuth is changing, that is a given. It will continue to change as it grows and we as a community will grow

crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Jun-20-2007 14:49

okay, so in the interests of reorienting things here, let's pull out one issue and simplify:

What are some ways people can think of to make treasure hunting more competitive? (which'll suck for me, I loved winning like 60 in three months with SMRT, lol!)

*moons al-Qahirah*

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