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May-21-2007 12:05

I understand that you lose things if you get 3 FA...what doesnt make sense to me is the choices you have...what happens if you just start with a new P.I. name...you still lose everything...so what's the purpose..

May-22-2007 07:27

Ok, lets go step by step then.

>>By reactivating your old detective, you will lose almost all your money,
Yes

>>and your contacts,
Yes

>> as well as experience points,

Jas implies here you loose all your Experience Points. Likely a gramatical error, but you only loose 25% as was pointed out

>>and losee all unspent skill points,
NO, you only loose the skill points commisserate with the XP loss not all unspent ones


>>start at negative with all factions,
NO, you loose most of your standing, if you were very high with one faction you will stay possitive with that faction


>>and a random piece of equipment,
Yes


>>BUT you will still have all the skills you already purchased. Those DO NOT go away!
Yes

Which is why I posted the link to the original thread which also had mention of the other places to check as well.

May-22-2007 08:17

Thanks guys, I honestly didn't have much knowledge on this topic until now, and now I am sated.

May-22-2007 08:25

does anyone know the word "lose"?

grammatical errors are fun :)

May-22-2007 08:26

This is something has has created a new wrinkle in the game. There is now a real stategy to picking a teammate to be retired to help out the agency.

If you are looking for a particular contact for your agency, you just keep retiring the detective until you earn the correct one. With everyone willing to pitch in cases to help rebuild the XP and Skill points it is much easier to build up the right mix of contacts in an agency now.

May-22-2007 09:03

Actually Ran, I was right. To correct you again:

Taken from the city hall updates:

3. Loss of Skill Points commensurate to Experience Points lost. Since no skills are lost in the process, this usually means the detective WILL start with NEGATIVE AVAILABLE SKILL POINTS.

May-22-2007 09:11

Ms HC, your right, it seems people do not read the updates, and even when they do, they apparently leave out info:

Taken from a quote here:

Ran said:
NO, you only loose the skill points commisserate with the XP loss not all unspent ones

as you will see that after that it specifically says in updates....

3. Loss of Skill Points commensurate to Experience Points lost. Since no skills are lost in the process, this usually means the detective WILL START WITH NEGATIVE AVAILABLE SKILL POINTS.

He convieniently forgot to leave that part out, which is a vital piece of information!

May-22-2007 09:13

Sorry Jas.

Here is the simple math for everyone.

8,000,000 XP and 320 Skill points (49 unspent because all available skills are already purchased.)

Retire your detective

Reactivate your dectective

Lose 2,000,000 XP and 40 skill points.

So that person still has:

6,000,000 XP and 280 skill points (9 unspent).

May-22-2007 09:16

Where on earth are you getting the formula, there is no formula stated there. And we all know that most people that get retired do not have that many skill points, especially the one who started the post.

So what I stand by, is correct, they will start at negative skill points!

May-22-2007 16:59

Oy! Roamieeeeee. Can you retire your detective to see what happens to your left over skill points for us pleaaaaase :D

May-22-2007 19:40

I do have one question about factions. It talks about losing most faction standing, but I've reactivated twice (I'm a gambler, what can I say? I know I need to stop) and the first time everything was reset to -3, though my faction levels were uneven. This time around things were reset to -5, which was actually an improvement to my faction standing with one or two.

Is there just a limit as to how low your faction can get when you reactivate or what?