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Enough is Enough
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Chelsea Bando
Chelsea Bando
Well-Connected

Feb-23-2007 22:10

I am tired of Ben not doing anything about people who lie, cheat, and steal in this game. Ben gives people to many chances. People need to be banned. How many more agencies must suffer the consequences of having rogue detectives join, take sign on bonuses, loot lockers, steal money from safe accounts, and then leave to repeat the process before the administration takes action? Chronestrian left this site for a reason, and I spoke to him shortly before he quit. I honestly told him that the site was not going to change and that people would continue to abuse the system without any fear of punishment. Enough is enough. I call upon the denizens of Slueth to support my referendum. Ben must take action against repeat offenders.

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reda
reda
Well-Connected

Feb-24-2007 02:59

I agree with Neritine. That is why I never offer a bonus for joining FK. Also we keep newbies as rookie for a while. We tell them that when we recruit them. It will scare most of the thiefs, cause they will have to work for a while before they get promoted.
Still we had some cases of theft in the past. But we survived.

Everytime this happens someone is screaming for Ben. I dont agree that Ben or Sunny need to do anything about it. This is a game! bad ppl will come and go and even if you were robbed, you can rebuild.
Ben and Sunny are just the creators. Not our mommy, Dady and police force.
We have some tools, like putting stuff in officers/director locker. Or strating someone as rookie.
We are also warning eachother when we have trouble. I know I warned several agencies about this guy in PMs.

Some agencies didnt read the board. Well, Ben and Sunny also dont read everything. So why blame them for not noticing this?

Take responsibilities! And be ready for hard times that comes with having an agency. Its part of the game! Solve your own problems and help eachother. But dont expect Ben to fix every mess.

*waiting for the hate mail*

Remington Steel
Remington Steel
Con Artist

Feb-24-2007 04:00

I'll guarantee you some hate mail, reda, by seconding your motion. If we can't police our own individual agencies, we'll just let Ben handle 40 or 50 instead. For the number of bios purporting to be tough with razor-sharp crime-solving minds, it doesn't sound like back doors are even being locked.

The game being built here is incredible, and I've precious few problems with the game itself. And individuals who commit "crimes" in here have never given me trouble, either.

It's always been the deafening din of moral outrage in the boards that's turned me off, and why I've followed my friend to another game. Like the thread says, enough is enough.

Neritine
Neritine
Well-Connected

Feb-24-2007 04:09

Maybe a well placed warning about shady could also help a lot.
like:
"Also if you have the feelling that you can manage shady cost, he is REALLY out off price. Nobody will NEVER be able to manage him because he is THE shady. So just avoid false accuse AT ANY COST".


AraLives
AraLives
Battered Shoe

Feb-24-2007 05:30

Damn. I noticed that B&D had hired him and made him agent, but I figured that they already knew about what happened, from all the drama on the boards, and had worked something out with them. I'd thought of PMing Chelsea but figured she knew what she was doing. I very much regret that decision now.

That being said, I am in agreement that the game has mechanisms in place to minimize this sort of thing. At SMRT we don't promote rookies for about a week or so, and we tell them that from the start--they have to earn our trust before they become agent. We also check the references over at the Director's Lounge before hiring anyone, to make sure there isn't a note about them. If Ben & Sunny haven't recieved a complaint, then exactly what can they do? Werber has defrauded what, 4 agencies now, and no one has complained? Ben can, and has, banned players before, based on complaints about their behaviour.

I'm really sorry for the loss of equipment, money, and trust. But it might be time for the agencies affected to review their hiring/promotion policies.

Also it would be nice to see werber out on his bony ass.

Chloe De Wynter
Chloe De Wynter
Well-Connected

Feb-24-2007 05:54

What Reda and Rem said. Keep new agency members as rookies for a while and make sure you keep your good gear in the officers and directors locker sections. Keep other directors informed if you've had problems with a particular detective.



AndreaX
AndreaX
Thespian

Feb-24-2007 06:00

Man, the things I miss by having to sleep!

Chelsea, I am REALLY sorry you got taken advantage of, but dang it girl, we'd been talking about this guy for days in the recruitment board.

He approached our agency (big laugh!) and the director he approached did not know anything about him, so luckily she asked S_K about him. Needless to say, he got one of those: "We are not hiring right now..." type of letters.

I also warned newbies who expressed interest in joining his agency and luckily, they also listened.

Again, however, I am very sorry B&D went through this.

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Feb-24-2007 07:06

There is also the issue of what stops someone like werber#2 from creating a new detective and doing the same thing till we run that detective off.

I think blocking IP addresses might be something to think about, when someone behaves like this. This guy is obviously not here to play the game of Sleuth as we know it. He has his own game he's playing.

Ananke
Ananke
Old Shoe

Feb-24-2007 07:15

I am very sad to hear about the recent actions at B&D.

Even more saddened that now good decent recruits are going to get rejected or watched as if they are criminal because of people like this.

It is definatley going to make joining or starting an agency hard for new agents (for all of us really) especially if he does what roamie said and creates more lil thiefs.

Arabella Parker
Arabella Parker
Well-Connected

Feb-24-2007 08:55

First, I am very sorry to see that B&D got hit by that thief.

I am going to have to agree with several people here. We have divided lockers and rookie status for a reason. We also have the directors board where we can warn others about these type of people. The measures we already have in place should be enough to keep the filth out. As directors we need to talk to each other more, and guard not only our agencies but be open and help guard the other agencies too.

But whatever happens, lets not let a few bad apples spoil this game for us. There are so many wonderful people who make this game fun. I don't want to see the trouble makers run off some of our finest members.

Special_K
Special_K
Lucky Stiff

Feb-24-2007 10:29

Ok, one question

WHY are people still taking this kid into their agencies? He's now in ANOTHER agency, sitting there with all of B&Ds equipment.

DONT ACCEPT THIS KID! Talk about reinforcing bad behavior...

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