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Washington Jones
Washington Jones

Jan-3-2007 16:25

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I read (on more than one agency page) lists where it says how many suspects and how many of them have an alibi for certain dificulties (ex 8 suspects, 3 withut alibis on hard). Therefore if I foudn 8 bad or no alibis I stopped askign others. This past case I had 3 that were no or ba d(at least I thought), I accused who I thought it was and I was wrong. The guilty party was someone other than the 3 I thought had no alibi. Obvisouly aince I was worng on my guess I couldhave been wrogn in my alibis but Ithink I have seen this before. So anyways, does anyone know if the X suspects, Y alibis equation stillworks?

I'm sure the end problem is my bad sleuthing but knwoing how many no alibis sure helps a lot.

thanks.

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AraLives
AraLives
Battered Shoe

Jan-4-2007 05:40

That's very strange, Jonathan, because in ALL the AI cases with 11 suspects I have 4 real alibis and 7 fakes/no alibis. One of the reals does not have evidence that matches anything. The vast majority of the cases I solve are AI's, and I have never had an FA due to this. *shrugs*

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

Jan-4-2007 06:05

I have had a few with 7:4, but on the whole its been 8:3 on the fake:real. Strange.

Ranier Peperhaut
Ranier Peperhaut
Washed Up Punter

Jan-4-2007 07:28

Since "clearing" this up recently with some of the more experienced players I have only ever had 7 fake alibis, and therefore, either 3 or 4 real depending on whether I had 10 or 11 people.

I know this to be true in a lot of those cases because I find the rest of my fakes once I've already found all 4 reals (or all 3 if I have all my suspects.)

Prior to that I believe I played looking for 8 fakes based on that old sleuth helper thingy's numbers, but to my knowledge, I don't think I ever actually found the 8th fake person.

I have never (knock on wood) gotten an FA due to this logic (but have, due to my own stupidity.)

After reading this post I am now SUPER NERVOUS that the game mechanics have changed...

Have they changed? Oh great sleuth gods, have they changed????

Ms Helen
Ms Helen
Con Artist

Jan-4-2007 07:29

I've only ever had 7 fake/no alibis with either 3 or 4 real alibis. Nearly every case i solve is AI now with the exception of favours.

Ranier Peperhaut
Ranier Peperhaut
Washed Up Punter

Jan-4-2007 07:34

Jonathan Williams:

Is it possible that you are playing based on the old Sleuth Helper's numbers, and just automatically looking for 8 fakes? I know that's what I was doing for months and months, and it wasn't until recently after a couple conversations that I was informed there are only 7 fakes on an AI, not 8.

I didnt trust it at first, was constantly verifying everyone's alibi, etc. but it turns out it has been true for me.

I didn't even notice. If no one had said anything, I would have continued to look for that 8th fake person, who I (apparently) never would have found, and never would have noticed.

I do hope this turns out true for you, because MAN when I found that out, I started solving almost all my AIs, where before I was quitting at least 1 of every 5 I tried to solve.

AraLives
AraLives
Battered Shoe

Jan-4-2007 07:40

*peeks out from under the bed*

I'm beginning to get a wee bit frightened here. SS said something about a case with too many real alibis. What is *that* about?! Ben, have you changed anything recently? I just wiped out my FA's a month ago, having to carry another one around would make me a sad panda.

Washington Jones
Washington Jones

Jan-4-2007 08:41

Wow, thanks for all the answers.
If you need me I'll be hiding under the bed with Ara.

StrangerDanger
StrangerDanger
Nomad

Jan-4-2007 10:47

Since I started playing this game, I have written everything down (and yes, I have killed my fair share of trees because I just refuse to use the helpers).

In all the hundreds of AI cases I've worked, I have NEVER had more than 7 false/no alibis. The ONLY thing thats ever changed for me was the number of real alibis, which has always been 3 for 10 suspects and 4 for 11.

Everyone seems to be getting all nervous, but if ALL but one of us is saying the same thing, I think its gotta be pretty accurate, right?

Ranier Peperhaut
Ranier Peperhaut
Washed Up Punter

Jan-4-2007 13:10

I do tend to think that 7 fakes is still correct. Since I have started looking for only 7 fakes, I've captured another 6 Villains averaging about 45 AI cases each time. That's 270 cases, plus I have to have done at least another 40 or 50 from my normal cases, just trying to gain skills points for those darned faction skills... That makes the equation true for my last 320 cases...

And I'm just one lowly detective!!! My 320 plus everyone else's hundreds of cases... It's got to correct still, or we'd all be retired!

God knows if it was wrong, we'd never believe it and keep solving that way until we all got our 3 FAs.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

Jan-4-2007 13:21

Wow, do I feel on my own!

I have had 8 fakes before on AI cases, mostly with a couple of older detectives. It wasn't all the time, but I know I have had them before. I have often been sat in front of a list of 7 right handed suspects and 3 lots of right handed notes.

And that's because I have used research. I definitely remember seeing a few with my latest detective too. It would make sense to have 8 fakes from 11 suspects, as most of my IH favor cases have 8 suspects and 5 fakes, with 4 pieces of evidence.

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