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Solve A Lot2
Solve A Lot2
Assistant Postman

Nov-17-2006 11:42

Since there has been so much debate about use of detectives in agencies, and now we are getting new rules - is there any reason to have agencies?

I thought the reason to be in an agency was to:
1) Get help with cases - by using each other's contacts
2) Ability to combine favors to win Treasure Hunts
3) Swap cases, in case an agent wanted a particular faction
4) Donate, swap, use cases that may otherwise go to waste

Again, I think agencies should make the rules about how to handle their agents and cases. As a paying subscriber, don't I have a right to do with my cases what I want? I am already limited in how many cases I could play a day, now I am going to be limited in what to do with my cases too??

If people feel their agent is getting abused, quit the agency, join another one that thinks like you, or don't belong to an agency.

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BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

Nov-17-2006 12:42

*applauds Solvey*

way to go girl!

;)

Dobby the House Elf
Dobby the House Elf

Nov-17-2006 12:46

I agree 100% with Solve A Lot2

R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-17-2006 12:59

Under the proposed rules you would still be able to do what want with your cases it seems to me Solve.

The only restriction will be on the unsubbed detectives in an agency. We will still be able to share cases and contacts as subscribed players, help each other out, interact etc inside of the agencies and between agencies.

As you and I discussed on a different thread we both like many of the same things in our agencies.

I do fear one unintended consequence of the new rules in regards to new detectives.

Quite typically when someone is new in an agency we will open up the less difficult cases for them, perhaps search them for them, and then leave them in the files for them to solve. In the past this was a good way for newer detectives to build up skill points to round out the basic skills. Now they will progress slower (and take more cases from the other detective that way) to get to the same point.

It is not a deal breaker obviously, because you still grow faster and learn more when you are in an agency. Like all rule changes we just need to find our sea legs as the course adjusts.


biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Nov-17-2006 13:06

I don't understand, Ran, how that would be a consequence.

In SMRT, the newbie will open the case themselves, store it in the file To Be Searched, and we will search for them, then place the case back in the files. They are the case originator as well as the one who finishes it, giving them all the experience, correct?

Just for clarification, thanks :)

R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-17-2006 13:14

Yes for those cases, but when we are training a new person typically I will give up a couple of my daily cases if they have time to work them so they can earn the XP. Especially at the early stages a little goes a long way.

I like to take advantage of that burst of enthusiasm when they join and want to do all those cases :) let them stuff them selves full the first couple of days. So those 4 cases I would have given them will now need to be 8 to provide the same skill points/xp.

Neritina
Neritina
Well-Connected

Nov-18-2006 01:05

That's just the logical consequence about some people being flammed by other ones.
In the end we just lost great sleuthers!

The new password sharing rules if applied, doesn't affect your own detective.(guessing Ben will find the better way to do it, what about if you can't logg under a detective with 2 IP in less than two hours, and if the same IP can't logg more than two detective in 2 or more hours).
These rules will just forbid to use others detectives account, and yes giving delays in CR analisys , direct help on cases, and treasure hunt, but maybe that's not so bad.



Neritina
Neritina
Well-Connected

Nov-18-2006 01:19

PS: it's not worst than AVH....

Lady Ruby Caplan
Lady Ruby Caplan
Well-Connected

Nov-18-2006 02:41



I thought the reason to be in an agency was to:
1) Get help with cases - by using each other's contacts

I don't see how the changes will affect this. People who don't password share can still get help with their cases. I know someone, Chron maybe, was talking about playing the game as if it were a real agency. There you couldn't use someone's skills of analysis if they weren't there.

2) Ability to combine favors to win Treasure Hunts

Once again, I still don't see how this would affect things. Members can still hold onto to their favours.

3) Swap cases, in case an agent wanted a particular faction

I think here that the whole shared experience is a GREAT thing. Too many times, I got faction cases I didn't want.. and I did all the work on them. However, I got none of the experience.

4) Donate, swap, use cases that may otherwise go to waste

Once again, I pay for the cases, I can't do them but I can give them to someone who wants them.. they get a bit of exta experience, and as I paying customer I get my share.

"As a paying subscriber, don't I have a right to do with my cases what I want? I am already limited in how many cases I could play a day, now I am going to be limited in what to do with my cases too?? "

All the online games I have seen limit turn/adventures/cases/issues or whatever the game mechanic are in some way. I do not think Sleuth is abnormal in this way. The fact that you can share your cases and do more is something a lot of online games would NEVER do.


Lady Ruby Caplan
Lady Ruby Caplan
Well-Connected

Nov-18-2006 02:45

"Quite typically when someone is new in an agency we will open up the less difficult cases for them, perhaps search them for them, and then leave them in the files for them to solve. In the past this was a good way for newer detectives to build up skill points to round out the basic skills. Now they will progress slower (and take more cases from the other detective that way) to get to the same point. "

Agreed, it will take more time to help an agent, but if you want to play a game, you do have start from the start and you do have put in the work. BUT you can still do it and get some experience yourself for your efforts.

Perhaps this will also make the high scores board more fair to new detectives who do not want to join and agency and want to solve their cases by themselves.

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Nov-18-2006 02:57

Well said LRC :)



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