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R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-11-2006 15:36

On other threads the discussion about how many cases you can turn in is happening.

The idea that there is a rule that you can only have 2 detectives in an agency seems to be a false one to me.

If you can access every detective in the agency because you have their password then do you control all of them?




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Neritina
Neritina
Well-Connected

Nov-12-2006 00:07

In our agency, password sharing is a trust issue, and not a rule, I like it that way.

- It's not a goal for us to play/use all the cases that an inactive player could offer, that's just a question of time. (but yes we like to have the password of the personn in this case, this could avoid/delay a kicking out after all)
- We respect the behavour of each player (for exemple Llolly and summer were on an AVH since two month AND inactive, and they're still on their AVH also if this is forbid the use of these detective to us).
- The more active detective playing, the better, (just today we lost a detective (probably) because nobody had the playing hours).
- In the end if a player don't like the way is detective is used he can always choose an other agency.

crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Nov-12-2006 01:59

Two things are emerging here as the central issues: first is the need for an operational definition of the word "control" in this context, and second is a way to enforce any rule that stems from that definition.

It seems to me that irrespective of how "control" is understood, the only way to enforce it is to limit the number of cases a given detective can solve per day, as artificial as it might seem. Yes, this would change how treasure hunting works -it would give an advantage to agencies in which password sharing is the norm, as some agency members would be able to log on as others to advance hunts. But, frankly, password sharing is *already* used as an advantage in hunts, so I don't see it as a dramatic change at all.

Since what sparked this thread is actually an issue about the accumulation of experience points, another option is for each real individual player to "officially" register a maximum of 2 detectives, formally understood as "controlled" by that player, and to somehow change the number of experience points that player can collect for a case originally opened by any detective other than those two official ones.

BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

Nov-12-2006 11:05

It's all a matter of free choice, isn't it? No one is forced to share passwords, just as agencies are entitled to set up their own "house rules".

If a player bought a subscription and somehow hasn't got the opportunity to log on anymore, I see no problem why cases that would else have been lost can go to other active players.

There are pro's and con's in every situation. An agency that is blessed with a fully equipped team of active players won't have to do the extra work of looking for favors besides for themselves and work up two or more detectives which eventually becomes a massive task. I know for myself that I rarely come to solve 12 cases a day anymore.

Ranier Peperhaut
Ranier Peperhaut
Washed Up Punter

Nov-12-2006 19:19

I really don't mean to be naive here, but I think I am totally missing something.

Between this and the "other" thread, what is it that people are so upset about? I truly don't mean this negatively or sarcastically either. I really don't get it. I have read the other thread but I just don't see what is making people irate.

I find the high score board of no interest, because I don't have the time to do those number of cases to make the board. To me that board really ranks how much time any one person puts into their game, and not anything else. I do think that is an accomplishment in itself, to put that much time into the game, and I find that I am often thinking, "wow, that's so much work!" about those detectives who do so.

I wouldn't dream of comparing myself against those scores, because I just don't have that time. (Damn work, lol)

I don't think it is unethical to give away cases if you are not using them, but I don't think I have all the info or insight, even while I am saying that. There is apparently quite a lot of history behind this that I am unaware of.

Anyone willing to dumb-down and sum up the concerns behind this hot topic for me, so I can come up with an informed decision?


Ranier Peperhaut
Ranier Peperhaut
Washed Up Punter

Nov-12-2006 19:26

PS:

I think the BIGGEST thing that totally confused me completely was Chron's response to it all. To me that was out of left field. But again, I don't think I know any of the history, so that is probably why I am missing the point.

woody2
woody2
Old Shoe

Nov-12-2006 19:27

check this link about no. of agent controlled by a single person http://noir.playsleuth.com/map/cityhall/post.spy?id=3794&first_record=33971

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Nov-12-2006 20:05

Ranier, I know the history and you arent missing a thing. Actually your post is right on the mark. There wasnt anything to get upset about.

IMOH, The previous threads were a personal attack on Chron and everyone who dares to have their own opinion around here and do things there own way. The threads were an attempt to make a dig at Chron and his team. Certain people didnt like it that his agents and agency was doing so well so these threads were started. There is alot of petty jealousy on these message boards. I know at least a couple of the people that posted against what Chron was doing, TRY to do the same things themselves. They just arent as good as his team was at doing it.

There are alot of us that dont post on these message boards or even read them. Its too bad that Chron did and felt he had to desolve his agency. These close minded people that want to run things around here finally managed to run off someone who loved the game and had some really great ideas about possible improvements. Its a shame.

Now, let the personal attacks on me begin, but I wont be reading them.

woody2
woody2
Old Shoe

Nov-12-2006 20:17

here here well said I totally agree with every word Im glad to see that someone that knew how to say it finally did GOOD WORK

calalta
calalta
Well-Connected

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calalta
calalta
Well-Connected

Nov-12-2006 20:55

Just so everyone knows i deleted my own post above. I did so because i do not think it would help the situation at present. Now, i do think that we all need to calm down considerably and realize that this game is about the community and the people involved in it and not who is on top of the high scores list or has solved the most hunts.

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