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Nov-10-2006 17:12

I was just perusing the weekly high scorers (wow! you guys are amazing...) and was wondering just how it is possible to complete so many cases (200+!) in one week. By my count, 7X12 is 84, plus maybe another 4 favors per day - that still only makes 112, if you solved everything. Where are the other 100+ cases coming from?

Nov-11-2006 17:08

For those that would complain that that system does not allow for solving additional cases in the case files for hunts, or rewards, etc. I will gladly point out that there is nothing stated ANYWHERE that mandates you solve your double's cases under your primary detective. If you want to solve "bonus" cases from the files, then leave yourself room from your double's caseload.

The status quo doesn't work. PAYING customers to this game are becoming irate. A long-standing generally-revered system for recognizing the greatest people to have ever played this game is rapidly becoming meaningless, obsolete, and to some, insulting.

I have further opinions on this, but in the interest of keeping this discussion civilized and non-biased, I will not express them publicly. If you want to know, I am happy to discuss my views in private to anyone.

Nov-11-2006 17:13

Well after all this talk I have to put in my two cents worth. Sleuth is an amazing game! In my humble opinion there is something for everyone! Your goals can be whatever you want. Some people come just to chat, do word games, pub quizzs and that type of stuff. I have met and had discussions with people from all over the world. Others like to be very active in an agency doing treasure hunts. Some like to plug along and do their own thing. Now others can go for that ever elusive villian! This game has got many people through very tough times in their life! It can help you keep your sanity on those long winter days. If your goal is to be number 1 on the most solved cases in one week, you can find an agency where all the games don't get played and spend your hours doing them. I personally have done that. Be it 70 games or 150 I was still #1 once. We go through these fazes and then it dies down for awhile. No one complained when woody1 or Hawkeye were doing 150 games a week. No one made any of the top players do what they did, it was their choice. Some agencies ask their agents to at least save some games if they can't play them. Eye Spy saves many levels of games for thier agents. This thread has went from a simple newbie question to picking apart some detectives for achieving a goal that they had. And biggie I agree that it is not good to do all those cases for the newbies but not to long ago a great many agencies banded together to help out a comrad by doing this and again it seemed all right then so why is it not all right now?
We all can have different goals and I will continue to pursue that villian that got away from Ben!

Nov-11-2006 17:27

I get enough private messages about this subject that I suppose it's time to step out of the shadows again and speak my piece. I appreciate all the thoughts and all the indignation diplayed on my behalf. You know who you are, and you reign supreme.

Point 1: Don't ever use the Top Score boards to assess your abilities. If you're achieving the goals that your detective needs and wants, you're on track. I had more fun at the Easy levels scrambling for new equipment and skills than I'm having now.

Point 2: You won't hear me complaining about the #1 race being an infraction of the rules. Obviously, anything that the game engine allows is "legal". My Remington Steel would be nothing without my Laura Holt, as per the source material, anachronism aside.

Point 3: The game has ceased to be fun for me. It's something I do, casually, because of my love of mysteries and the friends I've made here. But conglomerates crush any and every individual who hopes to get in the race. Small agencies and individuals are told to grab their ankles and take it.

In fairness to our illustrious Founders, the new Villain Hunts do give individuals a chance to shine a bit. It's not the game's fault that my life won't allow me to play every case I'm offered every day. I work more hours. I spend time with a beautiful woman. I don't have the time to give this game.

Forget the nickel-and-dime debates. Here's my question: How is the Sleuth community improved or the game more fun when an unsubbed detective uses a mega agency for a power play, doubling the high score holder's rank in a matter of weeks?

Is it a better place?

Nov-11-2006 17:51

Personally I agree with Carrie. It's each individual person's choice what they want to do with their detective. Let's just leave it alone and continue to have fun and sleuth. If your not having fun, then maybe it's time to move on?

Nov-11-2006 17:57

you know jasNmushu, you bring up a good compromise. Maybe all the paying active members of this community should stop playing, stop paying, and take our subscription money elsewhere, if we feel that certain player's "cheating" the system is bad for the game. That would be a much better solution than to try to solve the problem so that the game is better and encourages MORE people to pay to play it.

Nov-11-2006 18:04

I wholeheartedly agree with Serges' assessment, both in the above post and the one earlier.

Carrie, I see what youre saying, but I think everyone in the game has, at one time or another, worked extra cases for a hunt favor, or some other reason. I'm not saying it should NEVER happen, but I think 32 cases is a VERY reasonable number of cases for a single person to work.

It taking that system, and abusing it, beating it til it bleeds that gets me going on this issue. You work over 220 cases a week, you are not only taking away from the people who work hard with the cases they are ACTUALLY entitled to, you are completely monopolizing any chance of ANYONE catching up to you. If that makes you feel good, then great, but its makes the rest of us feel like crap.

As far as what Jas said....we are supposed to walk away and just forget about a game we ALL love to play so that people who DONT pay can have their run? Just not fair. I pay for the right to play this game. They don't. Period.

Nov-11-2006 18:26

I simply said that if you are NOT having fun anymore than move on...I never ever said that if your a paying subscriber to walk away.

Nov-11-2006 18:28

And biggie how do you know that they dont pay?

Nov-11-2006 18:30

And for the record, no ones comment should be looked down upon. We all are all different and have different opinions of whats right and wrong! So everyone's opinion should be respected and is by me.

Nov-11-2006 18:35

So is the concern about and unsubscribed player being on the high scores for the week or anyone being high for the week? Did you notice when the sub ran out? And I would also like to clarify the Serges and biggie are not speaking for everyone. We all have opinions and I personally do not totally agree with eveyones. This issue does not bother me enough to quit paying or playing. My concern is that people will look at these scores and think that it is all that matters in the game of sleuth. If we had done that in the beggining then none of us would be playing today. I have recently left Eye Spy which by the way started at the bottom and worked very hard to get to the top. This thread is making it sound like the numbers are all that matter and that is not how it should be. I am sorry that people feel like they are nothing if they are not at the top and that is sad. You should all be proud of yourselves and play and enjoy the game.