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Eagle Eye Flo
Eagle Eye Flo

Sep-23-2006 19:38

This is a whine ,, only a whine. My last 4 favors have been for the fortune teller. It would not be so bad if I did not already have the
fortune teller as my contact. I am trying to get my PE contact in London and have about 160,000 experience points.

Has anyone else been in a situation like this?

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Ranier Peperhaut
Ranier Peperhaut
Washed Up Punter

Oct-31-2006 16:50

Well, without even knowing, WOO HOO Ben!

R Anstett
R Anstett

Oct-31-2006 20:23

I will bite on that one Chron. I have two more contacts to get now in Cairo. How can I choose which of the WE contacts I get?

Chronestrian
Chronestrian

Nov-1-2006 01:35

Since I've gotten many pm's regarding my initial reply, I'll say this to all - do not assume you've got the game completely figured out. The HELP section holds answers both obvious and subtle. This is a detective game, so piece the clues together and solve the mysteries of the game itself, not just the cases. Happy sleuthing to all! ;-)

R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-1-2006 10:30

I will say that I think you are wrong Chron.

The working premise everyone in the game has is that favors are assigned randomly.

If this is the case then the contact you get is up to random chance. Yes you can influence it by either quitting the favor after opening it or just traveling out of the city you are in to loose the favor. But both of those are still reacting to a random chance that happened to you. The detective needs to keep coming back to see what the new selection is, but has no control over what will be avaialable.

If you are saying there is a way to influence which townie will want a favor from you, then favors are not random.

That would change a lot of what everyone thinks they know about Sleuth. Treasure Hunting would be radically different.

The reason I bring this up is that the Help file you refer to says"Favors and Contacts -- Favors are cases you work on at the request of one of the recurring characters in sleuth. If you want to work on a favor, talk to one of those characters when you aren't already working on another case. The reward for performing a favor is usually a piece of special equipment that can't be purchased in the detective shop. Occasionally, performing a favor will earn you a contact. When a given character becomes your contact, they can always be counted on to be cooperative in your future investigations. In other words, a contact will never refuse to answer one of your questions. "

No where does it categorically state that favors are random.


shell marple
shell marple
Con Artist

Nov-1-2006 10:55

Also might I add that in the Newbie FAQ it says this about contacts

How do you get (the right) contacts?
You can have up to 2 contacts in each city - one PE (physical evidence) contact (barber, banker, tailor, shoemaker) and one non-PE (fortune teller, bartender, waiter, etc.). You get a contact by doing favors for the townspeople. Most of the time you'll get a piece of equipment, but sometimes the townsperson will become your contact. Once a townsperson becomes your contact that's it, you can't exchange that person for someone else. So if you want to get specific contacts, f. ex. a specific PE contact, you'll have to quit any favors you might get for the other PE townies. Just keep in mind that getting a specific contact can take a little longer due to the quits.


AraLives
AraLives
Battered Shoe

Nov-1-2006 11:08

Seems fairly cut and dry to me. I wonder if Ben would mind confirming whether there is or is not a way to get the contact you want other than quitting favors.

R Anstett
R Anstett

Nov-2-2006 18:09

So far Ben has not posted anythng about favors not being random, so the working premise still stands.

Chron has suggested that he knows a secret that let's him tell his team which of them will get which favor for a hunt.

If that is the case then Eye Spy and Hitchhikers London must know something because they both have many more hunts solved than ERF does lately.

But I still think that it is random and that those two agencies just do a lot of hard work to win their hunts.

Does anyone else know of what Chron could be talking about?

jasNmushu
jasNmushu
Well-Connected

Nov-2-2006 19:22

I wish I knew too...one of my officers has been trying for the tailor and shoemaker for 2 months now :(

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Nov-2-2006 19:56

I know of a system that was once talked about long ago in an agency I belonged to... and we pretty much ruled it out after about 3 months of studying if you could control what favors/contacts you got. But that was long ago, so it may be that something has changed....

However, I stand with Ran on this one: I call your bluff Chronestrian. Unless you can provide sufficient proof (or Ben states it is as you say it is), then I don't think you're right on this matter.


Cheers

~Jojo

Chronestrian
Chronestrian

Nov-2-2006 23:56

Your 'stats-based' rebuttal is invalid because ERF TEAM was shut down for over 18 months, as I've said before. Also, we don't participate in multi-city hunts. I'll say this though- I made my statement as the #1 ranked agent in an effort to give some enlightenment to those behind me. I will leave each and every one of you with this - when the #1 of ANYTHING offers some advice, don't you think it's wise to listen? ;-) HAPPY SLEUTHING TO ALL, and to all a good nite! lol

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