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Sep-15-2006 22:46

Thanks to Admin for posting resumes. It is a better idea than listing all detective names (for those that wanted privacy).

Bad News:
There seems to be a bug with the resumes. I know of at least 2 detectives, that show them listed in agencies they never joined.
I believe it is tied to "gift subscriptions". When a person buys someone a gift subscription, it automatically links the accounts. So, now the gifter and giftee have the same resume.

I am sure Sleuth Admin is working on correcting this, but I wanted to let everyone know, before we go around accusing people of "infiltrating our agencies" :D

Sep-17-2006 21:41

Rem, Ben posted 8 hours before me that he thinks this is still a useful tool for Directors and I posted that I agreed with him.

Rach is explaining her point of view and I am asking questions about it. Where have I not showed respect?

Sep-17-2006 21:48

I clearly disagree with both you and Ben that it is a useful tool. My statements made my thoughts clear.

It's the digging through trashcans that doesn't show respect.

As a member of the minority who was voted down, I propose a list on each bio of all the Agency Directories a detective has accessed. Let's all get a look at who's digging around. If I'm not applying for membership in an agency, what cause would there be for anyone but me to open up my list?

Sep-17-2006 22:08

I agree whole heartedly with remington. This serves no purpose, except to allow nosy people to probe into our pasts. I have absolutely nothing to hide, but I resent the idea that anyone who wants to can poke around in my history. It serves absolutely no purpose, and I am very disappointed in the decision to keep this change. just my two cents.

Sep-17-2006 22:19

The way the resume works right now, it is not helpful for the purpose of keeping people who choose to rob other agencies out. I have not found a way it can be used at all. It seems to only be a way to spy on others, or to check up on people.
While I do not have a big issue with showing what agencies I have been in, I do think that checking up on people, tracking them, and possibly using that information against them may become an issue.
I understand what lilrach is saying. I do not think that she or anyone should have to explain why it makes them uncomfortable.

Ran, you said: “I think that one of the driving factors to adding resumes was to be able to check on thieves. It appears that with the restrictions it will not be as useful for that purpose, primarily becuase it does not show the agencies you create. However as an additional resource to see more information about other detectives and their history in Sleuth I think it works well.”

This bothers me. Why do you, or anyone need more information about any other detective. Your own words say it is not useful when hiring agents, so what information are you deriving from this?

Sep-17-2006 22:22

Wow! I'm trying to figure out when looking at someone's resume became equivalent to digging around in trashcans. Pretty strong wording.

I personally have no problem with someone looking at my 'resume'. Big deal. They will see what agencies I've been in. Well, they'll need to look at Rhiemma's to get any variety, but even if I'd been in 30 different agencies since I started playing they certainly aren't looking at my personal life here. I may live here it sometimes seems like, but it is not my real life. Now, if we start having our PM's publicly available THEN I'll yell. And loudly. THAT is my private business. My agency history? big deal.

That being said... I do think that the resume' bit is pointless if it doesn't do what it was originally intended to do. Which is keep track of the ones who are stealing from us.

Sep-17-2006 22:29

I'm glad you acknowledge that it doesn't fulfill its goal, Della.

But not caring about privacy is hardly a reason to force it on people who do care.

Sep-17-2006 22:29

Very good question ara!

And Della, it's not really that my history is available that ticks me off, it's the fact that it's not needed for anything. It's simply extra information that anyone who has a right to know could simply ask me. Anyone else, it's none of their business. I agree with you, it is pointless, since it is ineffective at what is was designed to do.

Sep-17-2006 22:34

You know they say a camel is a horse designed by committee.

Sep-17-2006 22:37

Arabella, I did not say it is not useful my words were "not as useful".

I think it is very nice to see that a particular detective has always been in one agency, or that another has been in 5 in the last 2 months.

There have been discussions in the past about rotating detectives in agencies. Now everyone can clearly see how that works.

I look through the agency directory all the time. It helps me see who is moving around between agencies, the new agencies, and I can talk with many people that way.

You said "and possibly using that information against them may become an issue".

Just how would someone use the fact that I have been in 4 agencies in the past month against me? Or it be an issue at all? You seem to be saying that saying that if you are "uncomfortable" with the idea it is enough to justify hiding the information from the public. What if it make me uncomfortable to see that you are hiding information from people?

Once again, I understand that people dislike this idea, but I have not seen anyone give out an example of why it is a bad idea to have more information.

Sep-17-2006 22:40

Personally (and I mean personally), I don't see what the fuss is about. I don't consider it an invasion of my privacy if someone looks at my agency "resume", and I don't feel as though I am invading anyone else's by accessing that particular kind of information.

That being said, I DO understand that a lot of people aren't happy with the direction this entire process has taken. They are right in pointing out that the current system does little, if anything at all, to solve the problem it was set in place to combat, and has become nothing more than a historical record, and an unfortunately flawed one at that.

Those that are upset about other people invading their privacy have the right to feel that way. I don't agree with the level of outcry per se, but they are justified in their arguments.

Maybe this whole situation would be fixed by just taking the resumes down. I don't think those that liked the idea of resumes will be too upset, while those that disagree with them will be relieved.