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Solve A Lot2
Solve A Lot2
Assistant Librarian

Sep-3-2006 20:18

It seems to me that lately there have been new agents joining agencies to steal their equipment.

Is there a way to allow agents to "borrow" agency equipment, but at the time that they quit, the equipment is returned to the owning agency? The only equipment they can take is the one the came with.

I play another rpg, they are able to do this there. If the agency wants to give the member equipment, they simply unclick the "agency item" button. This is done by a director of the team.

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Chronestrian
Chronestrian

Sep-3-2006 21:33

Hey Cal, thanx for giving me the kudos for the directors' lounge idea. ;-)

While it's easy for anyone to start their own agency and be a director, there usually is a reason for doing so, like wanting to do things your own way. I've found that almost every single director I've seen all have a sense of loyalty to the site and responsibility to the common good. And I imagine that the very same scoundrels who pull crap like that would be the first to scream bloody murder if it happened to them!

I still think the idea of a directors' lounge is sound because we're basically doing the same thing anyway through pm'ing each other. This would save time, and get any situations into the light to be dealt with between whichever parties are involved.

BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

Sep-3-2006 21:33

How in the hell are we to be held responsible for the games of con artists? This is internet, people have it real easy to pretend what they're not....honest!!!!

And to make it clear, I didn't get ripped off....so far. I consider it a matter of luck actually and no judgment expertise. I can't check out "body language" or other indications of dishonesty, just a couple of words like "HI, can I join your agency please!". If there's a way of avoiding all these endless debates and "misunderstandings" it would save us from a lot of community infection.

Autumnsprings
Autumnsprings
Con Artist

Sep-3-2006 21:36

*agrees with bad*

Arabella Parker
Arabella Parker
Well-Connected

Sep-3-2006 22:35

While I feel bad for agencies that have had gear stolen, I also have to wonder why they did not use the features already provided. Why promote someone to agent, giving them full access to your locker when you have only talked to them for maybe 5 minutes. The reason rookies do not have locker access is so that they can prove their loyalty and friendship to the agency they joined and earn the privilege and responsibility that comes with the promotion. We also got the option to mark some or all equipment officer and / or director only. If you utilize this function, you can keep all your equipment locked away until an agent has made an impression that they are to be trusted. Yes, sometimes a person will hang around for a few weeks before leaving with equipment, but usually they have earned some of it. Directors boards and marking some items as agency property might be nice, but if people do not use the features already provided, why make more features?



tollo
tollo
Old Shoe

Sep-4-2006 00:09

About marking equipment officers/directors only:
If the locker is full, that can´t be used.
Yes, I know, don´t keep it full.. but there seems to be always some one who stores stuff no matter how we try to keep at least one space.
And sometimes there´s stuff you don´t if someone needs it so you can´t go selling.
About "agency item":
No a bad idea, but it would mean for bigger agencys much bigger lockers, because new agents couldn´t sell their equipment.


Breitkat
Breitkat
Pinball Amateur

Sep-4-2006 01:02

Truthfully, I like both ideas.
Tagging certain items as "Agency equipment" and having the option of retrieving if someone does happen to walk off with it has a great deal of appeal for me. We do a great deal of screening before we hire any people at our various agencies, and we do make use of the various safeguards in the Locker. But there are some items that are incredibly difficult to replace, and we have run into problems with trying to replace them, especially when they are the result of lower favor cases. Having an additional safeguard for some of this equipment would be helpful, I think.
Secondly, I've just spent the better part of twelve hours dealing with a suspect detective situation. While the current situation is having a favorable outcome at the present time, this is not the first one I've had to deal with, and it certainly won't be the last one. And most importantly, I've lost twelve hours of time that I could have spent helping my other agents, dealing with cases, updating agency message boards, or countless other things. Having a central source to locate and deal with director-related business would be an incredibly valuable asset, in my opinion.

Chronestrian
Chronestrian

Sep-4-2006 04:03

I was trying not to chime in on this, but the reality is there are some bizarre agents who pop up in sleuth from time to time. They usually don't stick around long anyway, and the gear really isn't that hard to replace. What they receive in 'backlash' or 'blowback' by their actions seems to drive them away and they really haven't accomplished anything in the long run. Their actions suck, but they get weeded out anyway. Such is life, isn't it?

Logan Creed
Logan Creed

Sep-4-2006 06:56

I think Chron’s Director’s Lounge idea is a good one.

I probably will regret doing this, but I have created a password protected offsite board where Directors may post concerns about agents and other matters.

Hopefully, this will limit the amount of public (and sometimes inaccurate) assertions made against relatively new players who may have made a simple mistake. I fear such public threads may deter new players. In addition, those detectives that are plundering agencies will not necessarily know that most Directors have their name. Therefore, they may be less inclined to create new detectives, retreat into anonymity, and start the process over again.

I invite any Director of an agency with over 2,000 Fame to pm me and I will send the URL for the site. Registration will require an e-mail address.

I fully expect that not everyone will be pleased with this idea. If so, please feel free to contact me directly or post your complaints. I don’t want to affect the community spirit of the game, but as was pointed out, we must deal with the occasional troublemaker. This will just take less of our time to do so.

R Anstett
R Anstett

Sep-4-2006 07:09

I think that a player initative like this is a good way of handling things. Thank you for volunteering Logan.

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Sep-4-2006 09:05

That is a great idea Logan. A director only chat room would help alot.

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