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Mar-14-2006 21:36

I think shady is a great idea for controling how well people play. But on the other hand "unsolvable" cases and human error can cause fauls acusations way to easy. I think shady should be changed for this reson. How you ask?

I think the cost should be lowered. I found myself not being able to do any cases for weeks having my agency back me on money till I could pay him off. All because of two cases were evry clue pointed to a certain person but the case said I was wrong. I spent so much money on bribes for those cases just to find out those bribes were worthless.??? Thats not right.

Also I think as your skill level incresis so should the amount of false acusations your alowed.

Fellow Sluethers, what do you think?

Sep-4-2006 18:53

Ok, However, in saying all this,I do like the idea of doing a (Ridic.Hard +) case for Shady for a decrease in his prices.

I also like the idea that a ramdom player is selected as Shady for one day and at the end of the day, they have 12 or 24 hours to collect all their money. Hehehe.

Was what I said, I do think it means I agree with Aviles on lowering prices? I also think my post was in reponse to ones before it.

And obviously, I can 't take responsiblity for anything anyone else said.

S.A.L, once again, I am sorry you feel there's an in crowd that you are not part of, however, I really don't know where you get that from.. and if it's because people have disagreed on before, I think you need to know they are not disagreeing with you personally or to hurt or to upset you.

Sep-4-2006 18:57

*is sorry because she didn't see AL's post before posting this and is still hoping that LED is kicking it up in Florida drinking Margaritas with all the old biddies and winnning her daily Bridge Games by the pool and hopes other detectives don't make the same silly ass mistake she did.*

Does anyone else love this thread as much as I because it had the "F" word in it? I even got to write it!!

*dances around with glee "I said the "f' word I said the "f" word*

Sep-4-2006 19:08

LOL u might have gotten away with it if you didnt point it out.....

I think if I was going to start a tribe, Al would be my elder :)

Sep-4-2006 19:11

Aviles, you say you're not guessing but I have never once been wrong when I've accused a suspect with evidence against them and no alibi. The times I've gotten in trouble, personally, has always been when I was unable to determine for sure whether the suspect had an alibi. There have been times, in the past, when I felt confident about accusing them even in lieu of a verified alibi because I had two pieces of evidence against them—but just because I couldn't verify an alibi doesn't mean they don't have one.

If a suspect clams up for me before I can even get an alibi out of them, they do not go on my list of suspects. I would much rather quit the case. I don't even look for evidence against them unless I have a fake alibi.

That's just been my experience. You didn't mention alibis in your post and that's why I wondered. It's the absolute most important bit of evidence to collect, in my opinion.

Sep-4-2006 19:12

Hmm. Should have looked at how old this was and what it had turned into before jumping in. Sorry.

Sep-4-2006 19:19

Ham, Thanks for the post. It is nice to see how someone else handles the No Alibi situation. I am working on the villain hunts and have an awful time with suspects and witnesses clamming up. Your post was helpful.

Sep-4-2006 19:38

Ham and Roamie, on the higher level cases you may want to rethink that strategy.

Quite often it is better check PE against Valid alibis rather than Fake alibis.

I was reminded of this recently and started to do some math on it. Not completely sure of when to switch tacks on questioning Valid or Fake yet, but I do know that both are things the top sleuths keep in their tool box.

Sep-4-2006 19:46

True. I've only completed Ridiculously Hard cases thus far. And, granted, I throw this out the window a little bit when on a crucial favor for a hunt—that's when I'm willing to take a chance.

I'm not entirely sure I see what you're getting at, though, Anstett. As I understand the game (and I'm still very much a novice compared to many of you), if a suspect has a valid alibi, they absolutely cannot be guilty. That's my understanding. Maybe someone wants to correct me on this?

My no-foiled-alibi, no-accuse strategy has certainly increased the number of cases I've quit, without question. It's also dropped me down to zero on FA's whenever I follow it, however, and that's more important to me. And I still do solve the majority of my cases, so I'm happy. As for what lies beyond Ridiculously Hard, and how strategies will have to change, I cannot say.

I'll find out when I get there.

Sep-4-2006 20:05

You are correct in that the PE against a suspect with a Valid alibi does not make him guilty.

But if you have 4 PE, and you can place 3 of them against Valid Alibis, then you have narrowed down who can be guilty.

Take careful notes, pay attention to how many questions you would have to ask to compare all the PE against your False/No Alibi then against the Valids.

No one wants a FA, I happen to be a little more stingy with quits than most. Solving as many of your cases as you can should be the goal for everyone.

Guessing is bad.

Sep-4-2006 20:13

Yes, you can eliminate lots of suspects instead of just one by matching people who are definitely innocent with a particular piece of evidence.

Lets say you have a female thread and a male thread, a curly hair and a slim footprint. You find three suspects who are innocent and match them with the threads and the curly hair.

The only suspects who can possibly be guilty at this point are suspects with no alibi AND slim footprint. You can eliminate all suspects with heavy footprints which will narrow down your suspects by a couple every single time.

Thanks to Lincooglerlinda for training me to do cases this way. It makes the higher level cases, especially AI cases, much easier to work from the definitely innocent side than the possibly guilty side.

Hope this helps :>