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Aviles
Aviles

Mar-14-2006 21:36

I think shady is a great idea for controling how well people play. But on the other hand "unsolvable" cases and human error can cause fauls acusations way to easy. I think shady should be changed for this reson. How you ask?

I think the cost should be lowered. I found myself not being able to do any cases for weeks having my agency back me on money till I could pay him off. All because of two cases were evry clue pointed to a certain person but the case said I was wrong. I spent so much money on bribes for those cases just to find out those bribes were worthless.??? Thats not right.

Also I think as your skill level incresis so should the amount of false acusations your alowed.

Fellow Sluethers, what do you think?

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Al Z
Al Z

Sep-4-2006 18:48

Hi there. I'd now like to offer my unique insight on this whole thready-poo.

It sucks.

To me the bulletin boards should be about 2 things:

1) Information related to the game itself.
2) Hilarious threads that enhance the fun of everyone in the game.

And there are exceptions such as when Chron kindly told us about Emerald Drew and Charlie posted to let us know he's okay from Iraq.

Accuse ME of being preachy here, but other than making everyone hate each other, what exactly is the purpose of this current thread going on here?

45 days in an environment is enough for me and my super intelligent brain to root out secret IN circles that crush people with unique and new ideas. I think its a figment of the imagination. I think people are invited into Sleuthchat all the time but never show up and then imagine they are being excluded from the In Jokes that occur there. I think jokes happen on the boards and are carried through other threads and people think its some big IN joke they didn't have the opportunity to see. I think people get ideas shot down from time to time and imagine the conspiracy that isn't actually there instead of just swallowing the "I had a bad idea" pill that always goes down the hard way.

I've had a great opportunity to get to know a lot of you and have made it a point to PM players to get to know them. In the short time I've been involved here, I've integrated myself into the full Sleuth experience. If you don't know people who are in chat all the time, chances are you just don't get involved in the full experience, which includes Sleuth chat and posting fun stuff on the boards and participating. There is no IN circle of conspirators. There are simply people who socialize and get to know everybody, and people who don't. I judge neither. People can play how they want. It's a game people. Remember? But to start throwing out labels and you said this and blah blah blah...

To be Continued. Yeah. The AL Z rant continues momen

Al Z
Al Z

Sep-4-2006 18:50

PART TWOOOOO

What's happened with this thread is too petty for this sophisticated game that Ben and Sunny have worked hard to build. The contents going on in the last half dozen posts are nothing short of an embarrassment for a community that prides itself on being friendly and open.

Really, this thread was re-opened on negativity and has continued on as such despite people asking for the thread to be dumped.

Shut yer collective pieholes how about and let's catch us some Arch Villains!




Lady Ruby Caplan
Lady Ruby Caplan
Well-Connected

Sep-4-2006 18:53

Ok, However, in saying all this,I do like the idea of doing a (Ridic.Hard +) case for Shady for a decrease in his prices.

I also like the idea that a ramdom player is selected as Shady for one day and at the end of the day, they have 12 or 24 hours to collect all their money. Hehehe.

Was what I said, I do think it means I agree with Aviles on lowering prices? I also think my post was in reponse to ones before it.

And obviously, I can 't take responsiblity for anything anyone else said.

S.A.L, once again, I am sorry you feel there's an in crowd that you are not part of, however, I really don't know where you get that from.. and if it's because people have disagreed on before, I think you need to know they are not disagreeing with you personally or to hurt or to upset you.




Lady Ruby Caplan
Lady Ruby Caplan
Well-Connected

Sep-4-2006 18:57

*is sorry because she didn't see AL's post before posting this and is still hoping that LED is kicking it up in Florida drinking Margaritas with all the old biddies and winnning her daily Bridge Games by the pool and hopes other detectives don't make the same silly ass mistake she did.*

Does anyone else love this thread as much as I because it had the "F" word in it? I even got to write it!!

*dances around with glee "I said the "f' word I said the "f" word*

biggie528
biggie528
Lucky Stiff

Sep-4-2006 19:08

LOL u might have gotten away with it if you didnt point it out.....

I think if I was going to start a tribe, Al would be my elder :)

Ham Dixon
Ham Dixon

Sep-4-2006 19:11

Aviles, you say you're not guessing but I have never once been wrong when I've accused a suspect with evidence against them and no alibi. The times I've gotten in trouble, personally, has always been when I was unable to determine for sure whether the suspect had an alibi. There have been times, in the past, when I felt confident about accusing them even in lieu of a verified alibi because I had two pieces of evidence against them—but just because I couldn't verify an alibi doesn't mean they don't have one.

If a suspect clams up for me before I can even get an alibi out of them, they do not go on my list of suspects. I would much rather quit the case. I don't even look for evidence against them unless I have a fake alibi.

That's just been my experience. You didn't mention alibis in your post and that's why I wondered. It's the absolute most important bit of evidence to collect, in my opinion.

Ham Dixon
Ham Dixon

Sep-4-2006 19:12

Hmm. Should have looked at how old this was and what it had turned into before jumping in. Sorry.

roamie
roamie
Well-Connected

Sep-4-2006 19:19

Ham, Thanks for the post. It is nice to see how someone else handles the No Alibi situation. I am working on the villain hunts and have an awful time with suspects and witnesses clamming up. Your post was helpful.

R Anstett
R Anstett

Sep-4-2006 19:38

Ham and Roamie, on the higher level cases you may want to rethink that strategy.

Quite often it is better check PE against Valid alibis rather than Fake alibis.

I was reminded of this recently and started to do some math on it. Not completely sure of when to switch tacks on questioning Valid or Fake yet, but I do know that both are things the top sleuths keep in their tool box.

Ham Dixon
Ham Dixon

Sep-4-2006 19:46

True. I've only completed Ridiculously Hard cases thus far. And, granted, I throw this out the window a little bit when on a crucial favor for a hunt—that's when I'm willing to take a chance.

I'm not entirely sure I see what you're getting at, though, Anstett. As I understand the game (and I'm still very much a novice compared to many of you), if a suspect has a valid alibi, they absolutely cannot be guilty. That's my understanding. Maybe someone wants to correct me on this?

My no-foiled-alibi, no-accuse strategy has certainly increased the number of cases I've quit, without question. It's also dropped me down to zero on FA's whenever I follow it, however, and that's more important to me. And I still do solve the majority of my cases, so I'm happy. As for what lies beyond Ridiculously Hard, and how strategies will have to change, I cannot say.

I'll find out when I get there.

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