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R Anstett
R Anstett

Feb-12-2006 17:59

The time is here to start invitations to Mojo Enterprises.

http://www.geocities.com/sleuth.mojo/home.html

This is a group effort by several detectives to create a fun, helpful and competitive enviroment for people to participate in.

We welcome you to look over our guidelines, our code of conduct and mission statement.

To show that we want to help everyone we are also posting for the first ime in public some (not all ;) ) of Mojo's hunting guidelines.

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jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Feb-15-2006 05:47

I need to think about what I want to say and how I really feel about this.
However I fully agree what is said above. Even though I haven't quite sorted out what I think about this, my reaction is that this is going to be very bad for the community. I can already see right now, that it is. Before long everybody non-mojo will not only stop hunting, but also feeling part of a community unless they are in an alliance. Which judging from the above is also exclusive.

Mojo.....shame on you guys. Stop killing the community and our fun.

R Anstett
R Anstett

Feb-15-2006 06:37

How does this kill the community?

Someone show me one thing that I, Detective R Anstett, Director at Mojo has ever done to intentionally hurt the sleuth community. How have I ever directly interfered in someone's enjoyment of the game?

You are saying that I should have continued to recruit and build up the agencies in private without saying anything on the boards? That I am not allowed to find new people and help them learn to play this game? Ask any detective in our agency. No one has ever been told what to do. We give good advice, we help each other out and have made (at least I thought we did) some great friendships.

On the point of Mojo stopping others from hunting. We have developed some good strategies to solving those. We shared some of them already with the public. I have not seen that from ANYONE else. Let the new agencies flounder around, it only helps out you? Maybe Mojo should stop hunting because it is the only fair thing to do?

Are you really trying to say that the detectives at Mojo should not be allowed to hunt becasue we are too good?

We did not create this group of agencies to exclude anyone. I do think that it is unfair to any new detective to join an agency that claims to be supportive and helpful and then find out that it is not what they thought it was. We do want other agencies to work together with us.

This post is meant to be very direct and answer these questions upfront. I am not trying to cause disention or rifts. I do not want this to be an "us versus them" where the other side is the bad guys. I want this to be fun and competive.

I had thought I showed in my actions as well as my words that I try to be a responsible member of the community.



Lady Emerald Devon
Lady Emerald Devon
Nomad

Feb-15-2006 06:58

"We shared some of them already with the public. I have not seen that from ANYONE else. Let the new agencies flounder around, it only helps out you? "

Maybe that is because other agencies don't need the validation from the community as a whole when they help others out. And other agencies have and do and always will hewlp other new agencies out, I think that was a pretty misinformed and slightly arrogant statement.
And as for the info, it's pretty well known and discussed Ran :)

My point I have discussed with you many times.
I have played online games where the sense of community and spirit was ruined by "alliances" and the like.

I am merelyposting my concerns, as I'd hate Sleuth to become an online game divided by "alliances".

I didn't mean to offend you at all or Mojos. I know they are an efficent, highly organized agency that work damn hard and need to be recognized for that.

And you also stated: "We do want other agencies to work together with us. "
and: "We did not create this group of agencies to exclude anyone."
You ahve already turned down aone agency who asked to be part of this.

jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Feb-15-2006 06:58

Like I said I need to think about this.
I kindly would like to ask that words are not put in my (or Emeralds) mouth before I do. You are asking me a series of questions in order to clarify if I said that or not. Obviously if you read my post I am not saying that at all, nor can it be interpreted as such.


Blueberry Hill
Blueberry Hill
Lucky Stiff

Feb-15-2006 07:04

Creating communities within communities can, and likely will, hurt the game, and it seems to me that is what is happening.
And having an overwhelming advantage in hunts by creating alliances like this isn't competitive. It makes the game less fun for everyone else. You'd be forcing others to make similar alliances, thus upsetting the balance of the game, and causing unecessary divisions in the community.

It's not in the spirit of the game.

IMHO

Arabesque
Arabesque
Old Shoe

Feb-15-2006 07:12

As a director of a new agency, all I can think of is why would anyone want to join our little agency when they can get in with the Awesome Power of the Mojo Syndicate? I'm being facetious there, but you know what I mean. I am concerned that in order to remain competetive and attract quality people, we'll have to either be assimilated by Mojo or make/join some other alliance--which is not what I signed up for. If it comes to that I'd just leave the agency altogether and operate on my own, I guess. I hate to think about that because we have worked really hard on our little agency, and would really like to do well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out

R Anstett
R Anstett

Feb-15-2006 07:19

I do not mean to put words in anyone's mouth.

I am stating my opinion on how I interpret what you are saying to me.

To the point of validation I am the only one here who has said that we should not have the high score boards if they do cause this much disention. I feel good about my contributions to sleuth overall and to Mojo in particular.

Leddy you say the things we posted are well known by everyone anyway. Then why do people think that Mojo practicing these ideas is unfair?

I would like very much to have more agencies join in with us to work together. You know that I have worked hard in private to help out other agencies and done what was asked of me. I do not think it would be a good precedent to immeadiately have a group of agencies swamp the community. That woud lead to the us verus them aspect of your problem.

The idea of creating communities within communites is part of sleuth. That is what agencies currently are. Small insular islands in the overall sleuth community. I am only trying to help those smaller groups work together to help everyone enjoy things more.

But perhaps I am just wrong on this. I will be quiet and try to do what I have been doing and give others a chance to speak out. I will go make one new thread for some thoughts on changes to agencies and then remove my self from the boards here for a bit.

Makensie Brewer
Makensie Brewer
Super Steeper

Feb-15-2006 07:24

I dont really see the big deal of what Ran did. He is a supportive detective/Director...even to people who arent in Mojo's or associated with them.

I disagree that he or Mojos is ruining anything in this community. Even when I wasn't apart of Mojo's, I saw him/them as nothing but supportive and helpful.

Everyone has their own way of doing things and in my opinion, forming alliances, isn't shutting anyone out. It never bothered me when I was Director of BCD. I never felt threatened or shut out. I just worried about what MY agency was doing, and not what others were doing. :)









Georgia Peach
Georgia Peach
Lucky Stiff

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Lady Emerald Devon
Lady Emerald Devon
Nomad

Feb-15-2006 07:35


I think that having many agencies is unfair as I have told you numerous times. I also told you that I do agree that agent rotation for hunts/cases/favours ect is unfair and though guilty of it myself, that I thought Ben's solution was fair and just.

It was the whole storing favours ect was what I was talking about as common knowledge.

I also feel that Arabesque's response was exactly what I was talking about.
I don't see how what you are doing adds to the community as a whole.
And it seems like you're not actually trying to "help those smaller groups work together to help everyone enjoy things more." but create an uber Mojos.

There are ways to help agencies by letting them do things by themselves.
And agencies, like I have stated before, have, do and alwyas will help other smaller agencies. Other feel they can do this without creating a "syndicate".

And I do agree with Mak that you are a supportive Director/Detective and perhaps I should just worry about my own agency however like I have stated I am merely stating my concerns. I have nothing against you personally or Mojos.


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