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Seagrave0730
Seagrave0730

Oct-10-2005 20:16

This is a Hard-level case. I have both pieces of physical evidence but no further limiting characteristics on them. The Fortune teller has said that I have the names of all seven of the persons of interest. Three have invalid alibis. Records show that one of those was in jail at the time and could not be the murderer, leaving two suspicious persons, call them Alan and Beth. Of those two, neither person suspects the other. Four of the five remaining persons suspect neither. The fifth, Clammy, clammed without identifying either suspicious person. The shoemaker says neither shoe matches the bloody print. The tailor only had time to tell me that the thread did not belong to Alan.

(From HELP): There are always multiple pieces of physical or witness evidence pointing to the guilty suspect. Logically, it cannot be Alan, because that would mean only one piece of evidence, Clammy's testimony, exists. Therefore it must be Beth. But can I accuse Beth without a "She did it" from the tailor or Clammy?

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reda
reda
Well-Connected

Oct-11-2005 00:44

It seems that you could accuse. But what I dont get is you said you asked all the ppl about both suspects and didnt get anything. Only one clammed.
Assuming that there are always 2 WE in the game, dont you mis a suspect? Or am I missing something?

Gena Long
Gena Long
Sleuth About Town

Oct-11-2005 05:15

I would not accuse because hard cases should have 3 pieces of evidence.

Dogberta
Dogberta
Nomad

Oct-11-2005 06:06

I was thinking along the same lines as Gena. I think hard cases have more than two pieces of PE. If you lack either basic hair or basic thread skill, then you might not find some physical evidence.

Seagrave0730
Seagrave0730

Oct-11-2005 11:00

Thanks for your helpful replies :)

The Sleuth Helper form declares that Hard cases have "8 people, 3 evidence, 3 suspects". Thomas the Fortune Teller says that this isn't true-- according to him some of my Hard cases have had only 7 persons of interest. This brings up another question: Is it possible that the Sleuth Helper form and the information behind it is out of date in more than one area? On what basis has it been determined that Hard cases always have more than 2 pieces of PE? Is it possible that Hard cases with only 7 persons of interest have only 2 pieces of PE and that those with 8 persons have 3 PE?

The form says that Intermediate level always has "2 evidence" which I assume means physical evidence from the crime scene. I began my career with Research, Hair analysis, and Thread analysis so as to get all the physical evidence available, and in almost all of my forty-some cases I got all the evidence the Helper form said was there. Is it really just a statistical anomaly that my detective only failed to detect a missing third piece of evidence on Hard cases with 7 persons of interest? Or does the number of pieces of evidence correspond with the number of persons of interest?

I put my case history in my Bio. You can see the history, skills, and equipment of my detective by clicking my avatar icon to the left.

cfm
cfm
Nomad

Oct-11-2005 16:20

I'm not certain what Sleuth Helper form you are talking about, but it does sound like outdated information. That was the case some months ago, before all the levels were changed from a static number of suspects. Don't ask me what they are because I don't suspect count, but like the easy cases could have 5/6 suspects each, the Increds are 8/9 suspects, always within in one +/-.....

The number of fake or "none of your business alibis" is a constant number on each level though. Again, I haven't a clue what those are anymore.... But, *motions to Fat Kitten*, Reda does! :D

Moonshh
Moonshh
Well-Connected

Oct-11-2005 16:56

I'm not sure about the evidence facts, either. I have openened almost impossibles with only three pieces of evidence, and I have never been unable to match one of them to the guilty party, which makes me think that when all difficulty levels were made to have a variation of one +/- on the number of suspects, perhaps a similar change occurred with the physical evidence? In any case, with Seagrave's situation, that's why I felt more confident advising an accusation. I am not sure any evidence is actually missing.

reda
reda
Well-Connected

Oct-12-2005 02:57

I dont count evidence but I do count suspects and fake vs. real alibis. The sleuth helper has outdated numbers. I PMed Naomi about it a while ago.
In all levels you can have x or x+1 suspects. For ex. Hard should have 7 or 8 suspects. The number of fake vs. true alibi is fixed per level. The numbers in sleuth helper on this matter are correct but you should take research into consideration. So in Hard its 3 fakes but for those with research its 2, cause research will clear one suspect. As for evidence: as far as I know if you have all basic smart skills and dress smart you should find all the evidence in the case. But as moonsh said I also have had AI cases with 3 instead of 4 clues. I have all smart skills and dress max smart for the crime scene so I think its just random. It happend in cases with 10 suspects but also in cases with 11. So I dont think it has a connection to the number of suspects.

If any one wants the full list of numbers per level, just PM me. I dont post it here cause some ppl may want to find it out on their own.

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