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cfm
Nomad

Mar-16-2005 20:18

Really, I have, but I still miss my sidebar! Anyone else wishing the handy little thing would be gifted back to us? Especially with all the traveling, trying to keep track of what is where, it would make it so much nicer.

*gets down on her knees, folds her hands, and looks up pleadingly*

Ben, please, I'm begging you, will you at least consider bringing it back?

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jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Mar-24-2005 03:53

I would agree with James Lee, it does seem to load a lot faster. However, it would be hard to compare, the old side bar, also had the old icons on it. And the old icons (even those on the map) were by definition more to load.

videocrazy
videocrazy

Mar-24-2005 15:24

*signs petition*

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Mar-24-2005 15:25

Well, polls close tommorrow...hurry up and put in your voice!

Torrey
Torrey
Vigilante

Mar-24-2005 15:32

I don't miss the sidebar that much. Its not that hard to find my way around.

If Ben were going to spend his time rebuilding the game, I'd vote for the branch offices' extra space for a file or to hang your hat. Has that idea been dropped completely?

The Mad One
The Mad One
Well-Connected

Mar-24-2005 16:13

I agree with JamesLee. The old sidebar seriously slowed down the loadtime of the game. I'd rather have a map that loads in less than 20seconds than a sidebar that I seldom used.

jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Mar-24-2005 16:25

Torrey has a point. And Jameslee, if we would go back to a new slow loading side bar. Further, I don't care. I don't think it is much harder work, with or without side bar. And personally, I don't mind going without out it, if it means someone with a slower connection will be hurting over it if we do get it back.

I am not sure what the use of a petition is, since there is only 1 party we can vote for. And, those with slower connections whom would be hurting over the side bar, won't be reading the message board as it is too slow for them to load.

Also I think a petition is a bit rude to Ben. He works his tail off on his spare time. And I never liked it when people get to forceful about implementing something that is a bit more work. I think we should stay with suggestions and ideas.

There are way more important issues in Sleuth, that we should be petitioning for. My 2 cts.

Makensie Brewer
Makensie Brewer
Super Steeper

Mar-24-2005 18:40

Even tho I wasn't around when the side bar was here, I dont even know what it is haha....BUT, I like how it is now, and I find it quite easy to get around. Either way, doesnt really matter to me....I'm satisfied with how it is now tho :)

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cfm
Nomad

Mar-24-2005 19:09

Let me say that I am on dial up. I really haven't noticed a difference with or without the sidebar as far as loading time. However, the sidebar loaded much quicker than the map does, and I would love to have it back. I do see the complications with the new cities, and I trust that Ben will do what is best for the game as a whole, as he always does. I just thought it was worth the effort to see if others are still missing the sidebar as much as I am.

James_Lee
James_Lee

Mar-24-2005 20:18

i too am on dial up and it is hampering the loading speed, the only thing i can find unfavorable about this map is that the colors load last and i like the colors

jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Mar-25-2005 02:42

We have to keep in mind one dial up is not the other. I kill dial up markets for a living, hahah. Or to put it nicer, I implement broadband infrastructures. :)
On a lot of dial ups, this game is play-able with or without side bar. Loading the bar would take longer by definition, but not annoyingly long. However, I'd say for the majority of dial ups (particularly those outside of the North-American continent), the side bar could disappoint someone whom is now used to playing without it. That's the problem, people are now used to playing without it.

I have tried to play this game on dial up connection from several business trips. I got so worked up about it....that I decided to wait until I got home, and rather play my games comfortable over cable. Loading bar and map, were just too much wait for. Even on a cable connection there were times, that I had the same problem. I haven't since Ben installed the new hardware, performance is great. But as more subscribers will go on, these times will re-visit again, at least temporarily. There is after all a point where new hardware is nice, going to a point where new hardware is absolutely required to bump up performance.

The bar got taken away during a time, where Ben did not install new hardware yet. And the change of loading speed, and aggravation, were significant.

However, I think there are solutions that would accomodate everyone.
1. Possibility to have the side bar optional.
2. Instead of using graphics as a side bar, using links.
3. Instead of having a side bar with rather big icons. For instance minimize the icons we have currently on the map to a few milimeters (for those not on metric, very very small), and instead of being as big as them spanning from top to bottom next to the map. Have them be only a bit bigger then a button, so you can just make out what the picture is. Small tiny little squares. Either Ben puts those in by seperate graphics, or even better as a image map.






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