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Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Apr-25-2015 00:35

Our Friend YetiFace has been hard at work again improving Sleuth.

He's moved the icon toolbar around on the map page. More importantly, townie locations relevant to solving cases are now linked to each other with their own toolbar. So you shouldn't have to jump back to the map screen as often.

Yeti's working on a few other similar improvements that should help take a lot of the tedium out of Sleuth, and reduce the opportunities to make silly mistakes while you navigate.

Tell us what you think!

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Yeti Face
Yeti Face
Pinball Amateur

Apr-28-2015 14:40

I've been asked to post some full screen shots so everyone can get a better idea of how it looks next to the other features on the map. Here's what the map looks like immediately after starting a case:

http://s13.postimg.org/n3atb5bg7/case_start.png

However, it doesn't stay like that for long, as the notes will of course be added to and updated as the case continues. Here's what it looks like when all the suspects have been located in a 10 suspect Almost Impossible case:

http://s13.postimg.org/v7ixfvxvb/all_suspects.png

Now there's a few details on that last picture you may have wanted to look at, but couldn't quite see. So I'll return to close ups of the information now in the next picture.

http://s13.postimg.org/czhi195br/pre_ruleout.png

The case is going swimmingly. Suspects are listed in the notes by order of alibi, so real alibis first, then alibis that you know but have not confirmed, then unknown alibis, then the false alibis, and finally any alibi that has been cleared by research. Both Sedgwick and Mortimer have been identified as matching pieces of evidence, and so those bits of evidence have now been crossed off the lists of anyone else they could have matched. Mortimer has also been checked against the Left Handed Note - but since he didn't match it the other suspects that could are still listed.

Now we can cleverly deduce that our murderer must be left handed, as none of the people with real alibis can match the Left Handed Note. So we decide to rule out all right handed people, which leads to this:

http://s13.postimg.org/phy3hu2bb/post_ruleout.png

Being out of luck with the Postal Clerk witness evidence is sought instead. Below are two pictures from the ask about another suspect page:

http://s13.postimg.org/z17sbaptj/iswara.png
http://s13.postimg.org/h9w5wuaev/nellie.png

Yeti Face
Yeti Face
Pinball Amateur

Apr-28-2015 17:39

The case notes also appear on this page:

http://s18.postimg.org/6mqtndt61/notes_and_physical_evidence.png

Iset Hekate
Iset Hekate
Old Shoe

Apr-28-2015 19:16

So, it will be like a dectives notebook, always onhand to help them nabbed the badguy!

I love it all thus far, Yeti Face! Great work!

Sleuth Admin
Sleuth Admin
Tale Spinner

Apr-28-2015 22:06

I like it too, but I would like to hear from a few more folks who are playing everyday before we move forward. I want to make sure it feels like an improvement to most people.



Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Apr-29-2015 03:46

Oh since the table at the bottom doesn't list in the order of the main list, could you push the ruled out suspects to the bottom? I mean I know you still need them if you're reverse engineering your case, so you can't grey them out, but it would make more sense to group them in / out.

Secret_Squirrel
Secret_Squirrel
Safety Officer

Apr-29-2015 03:52

Oh and how is WE taken into consideration?

Vulkie3
Vulkie3
Haynes

Apr-29-2015 05:48

Well, as a not - daily player (I've been off and on as to Sleuth Noir for the past couple of years), I must say that what Yeti is doing is a huge improvement in my book.

No more having to click on each character, write his / her characteristics down on a notepad and cross reference it with evidence.

Within a blink of the eye, you can see (with this update) which evidence could possibly belong to someone.

Now I've also used Sleuth Helper from Pidgeot and I've always enjoyed that program, but I did like it better in the old fashioned way instead of a program itself, hence I wanted to give my opinion about this update.

In my honest opinion, Yeti's ideas could (possibly) replace the use of Sleuth Helper, since it basically does the same, but then from Sleuth Noir "inside" instead of the "outside".

All in all, I wanted to conclude, that I have to vote a big YES to this huge improvement of solving cases. Also, if we can get a nice tutorial case working with this improvement, I'm sure even the new players of Sleuth can get accustomed to it, as well as the "old" players including myself :)



Vulkie3
Vulkie3
Haynes

Apr-29-2015 05:50

Also, as to SS's question - I assume it would be added as another "piece of evidence" under the regular evidence? But that's up to Yeti to decide :)

Aife
Aife
Old Shoe

Apr-29-2015 06:41

It' all looks fine so far Yeti but it will take getting use too after using the sleuth helper all these years:-) One question, you mentioned early on that true or false would show up as part of the alibi description although I don't see this on your latest pics. I sure would make life easier if it did.

I agree with Vulkie on the tutorial idea. It would be the best way to test this.



Vulkie3
Vulkie3
Haynes

Apr-29-2015 07:04

As to Aife's request: http://s13.postimg.org/czhi195br/pre_ruleout.png

It would look like this - Green means True Alibi, Red Means False Alibi and Blue = researched Alibi (which equals a diff. alibi, that's considered to be true in a way / no evidence linking to that person).



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