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Sarah Patrick
Sarah Patrick

Apr-18-2006 18:59

I love politics but i also love to hear other people's opinions on these important matters although i may disagree. i know it is a very controversial subject and not exactly a dinner table conversation but i feel that people need to express themselves on such matters as long as we can play nicely and not be too harsh. if i am allowed to, i shall suggest the first topic:
The Immigration Act


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crunchpatty
crunchpatty
Old Shoe

Apr-21-2006 01:26

haha calalta...just figured out what your name means *thinks about starting a new detective called tor/ont*

*timidly waves a little itty bitty Flames flag and is promptly beaten into blue bruises by the newly fired Pat Quinn and the heart doctors he's conned into acting as his heavies*

Gawd...no one outside Canada will get that.

OK, back to politics:

"Immigrants doing jobs no one wants cheaply, helps everybody"

Everyone except the immigrants. That work is worth what it is worth, irrespective of who is doing it, and should be paid accordingly.

BadAss, I'm with you on this one, completely...the American Social security system is so insecure that in fact many are concerned it'll be out of money inside 20 years. The thing is -people in Europe, take note, then gag- politics in North America, at least as far as economy is concerned, are driven almost entirely by the singular notion that whatever looks like it will reduce consumer costs in the short term is politically ingeneous. This is coupled with an equally unique shortsightedness and sense of entitlement so big that it actually allows people here to feel justified in whining about BOTH the loss of local jobs AND the cost of goods and services.

what this means is that here, competition between employees, unregulated wages and relocation (if it reduces end costs to consumers) actually tend to be embraced. More so in the US, but in Canada too.

lol, welcome to New World Politics 101.



Reese Withers
Reese Withers
Well-Connected

Apr-21-2006 09:51

I won't say anything more, than this....I agree with Solve A Lot :)

Jojo
Jojo
Old Shoe

Apr-21-2006 19:31

*Joins in the corner with cfm and Kris*

Della Devine
Della Devine
Well-Connected

Apr-22-2006 02:44

*sees topic and bites tongue bloody*
*heads to corner to curl into a ball, kicking away soapbox that keeps trying to get under her feet*

BadAss
BadAss
Charioteer

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jstkdn
jstkdn
Well-Connected

Apr-22-2006 11:09

I am fine with anyone immigrating to the US.
:-)

My experience with US immigration. For a person who is not a refugee. If you want to play by the rules and not be illegal, unless you want to marry an American, or give birth to child on US soil.....the US is nailed shut.

Ten years ago, I studied in the US on a one year student visa, and I wanted to stay. I could stay in the US on an extended VISA if I was accepted to grad school. Grad school wouldn't process my application, unless I had a VISA.
Chicken, egg, chicken, egg, flight home to the Netherlands.

The US loss I'd say, I readily hand over nearly 60% in just income tax to the Dutch government, as an intelligent hard working individual. Uncle Sam misses out. :)

Sarah Patrick
Sarah Patrick

Apr-22-2006 19:12

well, i don't mind anyone immigrating to the US. sometimes some of the immigrants come here because of problems that the US started such as Guatemala and El Salvador. these people work harder than anyone i know. new topic:
The Patriot Act
this act allows the government to invade peoples privacy without a warrent if suspected to be a terrorist.

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