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Matlock78
Matlock78

Jan-9-2006 19:49

Heya, first post so take it easy on me =)

Are there ever more than 3 suspects on the Hard level? I was under the impression that there are only 3 up till Really Hard. If there are only 3, is it possible there is a bug sometimes? I had three solid suspects, used my research, knocked one of the three out, knocked the other one out through questioning and hair pieces. So logically, I guessed the last one. Well apparently, he wasn't it either. In fact, it was someone else that wasn't one of my three. When I find three suspects, I quit checking the rest of their alibis, I figure its a waste of questions. I'm not perfect, so I guess I could have wrote down the wrong name in my notes, but outside of that, has anyone ran across anything like this?

Thanks,

Ben Matlock *wink*

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Nomad

Jan-9-2006 20:55

Matlock, I believe that the three is AFTER using research.

reda
reda
Well-Connected

Jan-10-2006 01:42

the X or X+1 is refering to the number of suspects in total not to the ones with fake alibi. Unless Ben made some changes the number of fakes should be constant per level and goes beyond 3 in harder level.
I have a list of the numbers, if you want it PM me. I wont post it here cause it might be considerd a spoiler.

Matlock78
Matlock78

Jan-10-2006 07:16

Thanks again for the responses!!

I just dropped down to an intermediate level, and I ran into the same problem. I've only done 50 cases, but I havn't seen this untill after I got research. The way I have been doing it is finding the suspects and then trying to find alibis and then validating them the best I can. I'm using sleuth helper, and whatever "level" I'm on, for instance Intermediate, I see it has 3 suspects. So, when I find three false alibis, I quit validating the others because I have found three suspects. I may have been doing this wrong and have just been lucky my first 50 cases, not sure. After reading through the site, I was under the impression that a fake alibi means he/she is a suspect. I just recently aquired research and that is when it started changing, so I can't help but think that it adds another suspect and then I have four instead of three. Is this what ya'll mean by X or X+1(if you have research)? Or can someone have a fake/none alibi and not be a suspect?

Sorry if this is confusing, I'm just a little confused at the moment.

Matlock

Arabella Parker
Arabella Parker
Well-Connected

Jan-10-2006 08:14

I believe some of the trouble is terminology. All the people you talk to are suspects. Some have real alibis, which means they can not be the killer, some have fake/no alibis which mean they could be guilty. In each case there is a set number of suspects, but it can very by one at each level. (x or x+1) The amount of people who have a fake/no alibi is set at each level also. Obtaining research does not change that formula. It will only tell you that one of those people who would otherwise check out as having a fake alibi, actually has a real one and the person cleared by research can not be the guilty person.
I have to disagree with some of the numbers on Sleuth Helper. Perhaps those numbers should only be used as a guideline and not as hard and fast rules.


Marmalade3
Marmalade3

Jan-10-2006 09:11

On hard I only get two suspects on hard, and three on really hard (no/false alibi) I think that the numbers on sleuth helper regarding the total number of suspects are pretty much always accurate though I agree that it should only be used as guidelines. To be honest I never use the form as it's really slow on my computer and I prefer to write in my notebook with my special sleuthing pen!!

Matlock78
Matlock78

Jan-10-2006 12:13

Thanks again for the responses!!

Ahhh...so when sleuth helper says on hard it has three suspects, it could actually be four. I take it thats the X(for three) or X+1(for four). So by not checking out all the alibis, I could be pulling a Barney Fife, by shooting myself in the foot. I need to check out all the alibis, even when I find three none/fake alibis on a "hard" case. I honestly didn't know the X+1, I thought it was X, and I got X from Slueth Helper.

Thanks for all the help, and Marmalade, could I get one of those special sleuthing pens? =)

Marmalade3
Marmalade3

Jan-10-2006 12:43

Yeah sure from any good stationery shop - mine's a classic felt tip but I hear biros work quite well too!! ;)

Marmalade3
Marmalade3

Jan-10-2006 12:43

Oh and congrats on your first post!

Greyling
Greyling

Jan-10-2006 15:52

Just to add to the confusion ;) - the X stands for the total number of suspects for a given level, not the number of false alibis. The number of false alibis is always fixed whereas it's the number of real alibis that can vary, hence the X+1. Finding the false alibis is a good way of going about it, you just need to make sure you know how many each level has :)

cfm
cfm
Nomad

Jan-10-2006 16:53

Suspects are people on your list and can vary in number by 1 on each level.

Fake/None of your business" alibis are a fixed number and Reda knows what those numbers are. ;)

REDA, HELP!!!!!

I do believe there may be an error in the Sleuth Helper, as from memory, The Hard level should be 4 suspects, one cleared by research....but its been a long time since I've suspect counted.

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